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benh911f

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i have some songs in My Music that, when I search for the album under Apple Music, does not have the little iPhone logo next to it, telling me it doesn't recognize I have the song stored on my phone. If I tried reorganizing some of the metadata to better fit what is displayed on iTunes (although I have always tried to tag my music just like iTunes) and then synced my phone again, is there a chance iCloud Music will repopulate again and potentially recognize I have the song stored?

Also, if I am searching through the Apple Music side, and go to play a song I have stored in My Music, but I click play on the Apple Music side, is it actually playing my copy, or streaming a copy?
 
i have some songs in My Music that, when I search for the album under Apple Music, does not have the little iPhone logo next to it, telling me it doesn't recognize I have the song stored on my phone. If I tried reorganizing some of the metadata to better fit what is displayed on iTunes (although I have always tried to tag my music just like iTunes) and then synced my phone again, is there a chance iCloud Music will repopulate again and potentially recognize I have the song stored?

Also, if I am searching through the Apple Music side, and go to play a song I have stored in My Music, but I click play on the Apple Music side, is it actually playing my copy, or streaming a copy?

Well why are you searching into Apple music for songs that are already have locally on your phone? That's my question. Seems strange, but that's just me :)

But to answer yours. Quick test/look through mine. The reason it doesn't show the little phone icon when searching in Apple Music even though you have it synced on your phone is because when IML did its thing it wasn't a match. It only shows the icon from within Apple Music if it was an exact match to what they have. Double, triple check artist, album and track names. But sometimes even if everything looks right it just doesn't match anyways and uploads your file instead of matching.

To answer your second question, I can only assume no little phone icon = streamed even though it's on your phone. It not recognizing the match (no phone icon) means it won't know to play off the phone.

To avoid all this just don't play the stuff you have from searching within Apple Music. Search from "My Music" instead or use whatever sorting (artist, albums, songs...and so on) you prefer to navigate to what you want.
 
Thanks, and to answer your question it was basically me looking at the complete album on the Apple Music side, and it not showing the song was stored on my phone, even though I know I have it. Also, say I'm on the Apple Music side, and I'm in a playlist, and the playlist has a song stored in my phone. If I click to play it directly from the playlist on Apple Music, it is in fact playing it from my phone, correct? For example, on this playlist, it shows a couple songs I have stored on my phone. Even if I click that song from the AM side, and not the My Music side, it will still play my phone version, not a streamed version, correct?

And your saying if I went into iTunes on my computer, and updated the metadata, then physically synced my phone again, it might match it on Apple Music? I also still am running the last version of iTunes 11, haven't upgraded to 12 yet.
Thanks for the help.
 

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Thanks, and to answer your question it was basically me looking at the complete album on the Apple Music side, and it not showing the song was stored on my phone, even though I know I have it. Also, say I'm on the Apple Music side, and I'm in a playlist, and the playlist has a song stored in my phone. If I click to play it directly from the playlist on Apple Music, it is in fact playing it from my phone, correct? For example, on this playlist, it shows a couple songs I have stored on my phone. Even if I click that song from the AM side, and not the My Music side, it will still play my phone version, not a streamed version, correct?

And your saying if I went into iTunes on my computer, and updated the metadata, then physically synced my phone again, it might match it on Apple Music? I also still am running the last version of iTunes 11, haven't upgraded to 12 yet.
Thanks for the help.

Did more testing :p

Just as I suspected. No iPhone icon even though you have it on the phone from syncing (because IML didn't match or doesn't see it as a match) it streams and does not play the file off your phone. I tested this by going to an album that showed a couple songs with no icon but I have them locally from a sync and turning on airplane mode (turning off both wifi and cellular) and it does not play your file.
 
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To answer your iTunes 11 question. I have no clue (because I always update as they come with everything) at all if anything but 12.2 (or is it 12.1 that is the newest?) can sync with iCloud Music Library. (make changes to info and have that sync)
 
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Did more testing :p

Just as I suspected. No iPhone icon even though you have it on the phone from syncing (because IML didn't match or doesn't see it as a match) it streams and does not play the file off your phone. I tested this by going to an album that showed a couple songs with no icon but I have them locally from a sync and turning on airplane mode (turning off both wifi and cellular) and it does not play your file.

Thank you very much for the help! And your confident as well that if I DO in fact have the phone icon next to my file, even if I play it from the Apple Music tab, it will play my stored file?

Edit: Well I just tested this out, and I guess it answers my question and is probably the same thing you just tried telling me haha. Turned on airplane mode and played a song with the phone icon, played ok, another song in the playlist that wasn't on my phone would not.
Thanks again!
 
Thank you very much for the help! And your confident as well that if I DO in fact have the phone icon next to my file, even if I play it from the Apple Music tab, it will play my stored file?

Edit: Well I just tested this out, and I guess it answers my question and is probably the same thing you just tried telling me haha. Turned on airplane mode and played a song with the phone icon, played ok, another song in the playlist that wasn't on my phone would not.
Thanks again!

Yep, I'm confidant that even if you have the song file on your phone and you're viewing stuff within the Apple music search. Airplane mode proved this. Went to an album through Apple music search that is fully on my phone already but had a couple songs with missing phone icons in the Apple music side. Songs with icon played fine in airplane and songs that had no icon didn't. (the little mini player bar at the bottom would pop up but quickly disappear and not play.)

And anytime. I hope things are at least a bit cleared up.
 
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