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After returning from a trip abroad and once again having my iPhone 16 Pro seize up from overheating, causing me to miss countless photo opportunities, I had enough.

I often joked that I must have ended up with a “Friday afternoon phone”, but truth be told, my iPhone 16 Pro has been the worst iPhone I have ever owned. I have been with Apple since the iPhone 3G, then the 3GS, 4S, 5S, 6S, 8 Plus, 12 Pro, 14 Pro, 16 Pro and now, as of yesterday, the 17 Pro. I normally wait a couple of years between upgrades, aside from the early days, but the 16 Pro became unbearable.

It would just do things on its own. Random calls, phantom app launches, strange website visits, even near-purchases I never made. Once, it called my parents overseas without me knowing. All they heard were muffled sounds, which of course panicked them. That set off a chain reaction with them calling my wife, who then got worried, and so on. Aside from causing a minor family crisis, it also cost a few euros in international call charges.

HomeKit was another nightmare. The phone would switch lights and devices on and off while it sat in my pocket.

And then there was the overheating. Honestly, it was like carrying a furnace in my pocket. The battery drained in no time, forcing me to carry a power bank everywhere. Charging only made it worse as it would get so hot it throttled during calls and even basic tasks. In my car, on the built-in Qi charger, it became scorching hot and refused to charge properly.

I tried everything including DFU restores, full resets and diagnostics. Apple insisted there was no hardware fault, so no replacement. At one point, I half-seriously considered breaking it and claiming on the insurance.

After just ten months, I finally traded it in for the 17 Pro. It has only been a day, but I have pushed it hard and the camera app has remained perfectly stable. I will see how it holds up over the coming weeks, but fingers crossed, because if the 16 Pro is the direction Apple is heading, they have seriously lost the plot.
 
I briefly went from a 16 Pro to the 17 Pro and I thought it would get just as hot at times or even hotter. I expected better since Apple is claiming the Vapor Chamber should help. Used it for about two weeks. Hopefully, you have a different experience.
 
Yes, seems weird. I also upgraded from 16 Pro Max to 17 Pro Max, but to be honest, it effectively feels the same to me. Speed, performance seem identical, the only tangible benefit I got was the upgraded selfie camera which I used a lot in a recent vacation to the UK. My wife is very happy with it (it was mint condition and still retained 100% battery health) and I think it looks much better than the 17 Pro Max. Never had any of the issues you mentioned.
 
Same here with my 16 pro on an overseas trip. Dead every afternoon by 3pm. So sorry I left my battery pack home. Started carrying around a charging cord as we toured. Very disappointing.

Either it was the camera or the Euro eSIM. Thinking hard about getting a 17Pro.
 
Very unusual OP. I recorded tons of video in high resolution which is much more computationally intensive than a simple photo, and never had overheating issues. I think you got a lemon.
 
After returning from a trip abroad and once again having my iPhone 16 Pro seize up from overheating, causing me to miss countless photo opportunities, I had enough.

I often joked that I must have ended up with a “Friday afternoon phone”, but truth be told, my iPhone 16 Pro has been the worst iPhone I have ever owned. I have been with Apple since the iPhone 3G, then the 3GS, 4S, 5S, 6S, 8 Plus, 12 Pro, 14 Pro, 16 Pro and now, as of yesterday, the 17 Pro. I normally wait a couple of years between upgrades, aside from the early days, but the 16 Pro became unbearable.

It would just do things on its own. Random calls, phantom app launches, strange website visits, even near-purchases I never made. Once, it called my parents overseas without me knowing. All they heard were muffled sounds, which of course panicked them. That set off a chain reaction with them calling my wife, who then got worried, and so on. Aside from causing a minor family crisis, it also cost a few euros in international call charges.

HomeKit was another nightmare. The phone would switch lights and devices on and off while it sat in my pocket.

And then there was the overheating. Honestly, it was like carrying a furnace in my pocket. The battery drained in no time, forcing me to carry a power bank everywhere. Charging only made it worse as it would get so hot it throttled during calls and even basic tasks. In my car, on the built-in Qi charger, it became scorching hot and refused to charge properly.

I tried everything including DFU restores, full resets and diagnostics. Apple insisted there was no hardware fault, so no replacement. At one point, I half-seriously considered breaking it and claiming on the insurance.

After just ten months, I finally traded it in for the 17 Pro. It has only been a day, but I have pushed it hard and the camera app has remained perfectly stable. I will see how it holds up over the coming weeks, but fingers crossed, because if the 16 Pro is the direction Apple is heading, they have seriously lost the plot.
Wow, it really does sound like you got a Lemon 16 Pro.
I owned a 15 Pro Max and I would say the Titanium iPhones got the worst in heat and poor heat dissipation, there was one day on a very hot summers day where my 15 PM got so hot it switched off (A/C was on in the car but I was using GPS), I had never seen anything like that before.
That happened in an early build of iOS 17 though.
Never happened again although it would get ridiculously hot with prolonged camera usage and dim the screen significantly.


Not had anything like that with my 17 PM.
 
Same here with my 16 pro on an overseas trip. Dead every afternoon by 3pm. So sorry I left my battery pack home. Started carrying around a charging cord as we toured. Very disappointing.

Either it was the camera or the Euro eSIM. Thinking hard about getting a 17Pro.
It's definitely running better, and the battery life is leagues better than the 16 Pro. I used the phone all day yesterday. Browsing, videos, photos, some video, a little gaming, VPN connected and using my smart home. It dropped to 60% after a full day.

More importantly, it didn't overheat. Apple gave me 690eur for my 16 Pro, which, I think, is reasonable. I could have sold it for possibly 800 privately, but then you have to deal with Facebook idiots, postage and more.
 
Something is wrong with the OP's 16 Pro.

Nothing wrong with the 16 Pro, per se.
I often thought there was. I took it to Apple, and they ran their diagnostics and everything came back clear. They claim there was absolutely nothing wrong with the phone. I even started using it outside the case (which I hate doing), but that made no difference.

I'm glad I switched.
 
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It's definitely running better, and the battery life is leagues better than the 16 Pro. I used the phone all day yesterday. Browsing, videos, photos, some video, a little gaming, VPN connected and using my smart home. It dropped to 60% after a full day.

More importantly, it didn't overheat. Apple gave me 690eur for my 16 Pro, which, I think, is reasonable. I could have sold it for possibly 800 privately, but then you have to deal with Facebook idiots, postage and more.
I used my iPhone 17 Pro for over 8 hours of screen time, including 3 hours+ of Netflix and YouTube, and 2 hours+ of AAA gaming (Resident Evil 2 2019). Despite this, I still managed to end the day with over 15% battery life. This is an incredible improvement over my old iPhone 13, which I considered to have decent battery life.
 
Home again and the phone is working better although I’m no longer the tourist taking pictures for a few hours and I’m back to my US sim. I’m sure that one or the other is the problem. People saying they can play video all day and game and it’s fine are missing the point.

FWIW the eSIM was a Holafly sim with coverage over all of Europe. I have no idea if this make it search carriers all day long or what
 
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Wow. Interesting story. A zombie 16 Pro. Kinda had same experience with 6s back in the days. Currently using 11 Pro on iOS 17, feels about good - calls get delivered in 80% of cases (up from 30% on 6s), battery is 77% but still seems to hold a day of use for me, camera is OK, it doesn’t seem to be much different in newer models.

Now tired of replacing phones. I waited for 17 Pro a long and hoped I would upgrade this year but tbh it didn’t meet my expectations, I wanted camera to be 250% better not 10% better and for some units even 30% worse (faulty lens/OIS issues). Incremental upgrades is what makes me tired of Apple these days. Just think: it took them three years to make all cameras 48MP! Because this is the best way to milk their consumers, year after year.

There are lots of conspiracy theories these days on the web (YouTube specifically) that Apple has introduced spyware and backdoors since iOS 16, about the same time they were bragging about CSAM and device/iCloud scanning features. Who knows, maybe what you were experiencing was a virus or surveillance. Idk how true these claims are, but I feel kinda uncomfortable for iPhone scanning my photos every second for objects, people, “enhancement”, and doing it all in background.

For that reason these days I am escaping any KYC I can, literally trying to leave no digital trace. Hopefully Facebook is nearly dead and you do!’t have to have a profile with your face and real name anymore, and LinkedIn is nearly dead and already considered “cringe” among many professionals. Being anonymous probably won’t be as stigmatized as before in the “AI future”
 
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Hopefully Facebook is nearly dead and you do!’t have to have a profile with your face
What are you on about lol, you don't have to have a photo of yourself, I never have, have a few family as friends for messenger and only use for market place.

11 pro -17 pro yeah wouldn't be worth it ;)
 
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What are you on about lol, you don't have to have a photo of yourself, I never have, have a few family as friends for messenger and only use for market place.

11 pro -17 pro yeah wouldn't be worth it ;)
No, I didn’t want to say it is obligatory, but it is kind of expected. I also used Facebook for these basic tasks (plus groups) before moving to WhatsApp, as well as I don’t visit groups as much these days.

As for the phone, for my tasks I don’t see benefits. Maybe 17 Pro is worth the jump, but not regular 17 or Air - these clunkers don’t even have ProRAW, ProRES or other features, what is Apple even thinking about… They are like my old phone but with more resolution and no telephoto camera🤷‍♂️ 17 Pro looks good but… not really. All competitors have 50mp 5x zooms, Apple has 4x. I got used to 5x on my gf’s 16 Pro, and I don’t care it is 12MP, it gives me such a good reach that I can finally take what I couldn’t, and 4x is just not the same, despite every blogger on the web trying to convince you otherwise
 
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My 16 Pro overheated a lot too in the summer on walks. I could barely get a few pictures in, in 80° weather before it would get too hot and the screen would dim to basically off. My 17 pro doesn’t do that. It runs noticeably colder.
 
I haven't had an issue yet with my own 16 Pro overheating but I also haven't extensively used it in very warm environments. Granted, you should be able to do so without issue and hopefully the 17 pro will work out better in this regard. You may have gotten a dud 16 pro and had bad luck interacting with an inflexible Apple associate. Some of them really drink the Kool Aide and tend to shift all issues to the responsibility of the customer.
 
I've never had such issues with my 16 Pro. No overheating, battery lasts all day. It's my first iPhone, so can't compare it to other versions.

Planning on keeping my 16 Pro at least until the 20 comes out.
 
It’s strange that even with my 15 Pro known for overheating I managed vacationing in the tropics and taking photos all day yet there was no issue with the display dimming or the phone becoming useless. Don’t get me wrong it ran almost uncomfortably hot and I did need my power bank as the battery life just isn’t much to write home about. But despite wirelessly charging on the go, being in phone calls and even using navigation with GPS the display never dimmed noticeably. If anything I kept dimming it to squeeze more battery out of it as that ended up being the main problem with my iPhone.

So I just don’t understand claiming the 16 Pro would dim in 80 degree weather when even my somewhat worse 15 Pro got me through 100 degree weather despite intense use.

I did only open the apps I used and needed which were basically just Safari and for navigation OsmAnd as well as iMessage and FaceTime for communication. I am sure I could have overheated the iPhone with other apps but I tried to conserve battery. (But as we know using navigation during a phone call when also googling is a stress test for any iPhone…)
 
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