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From AppleInsider.com:

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ms_major_apple_tv_update_in_the_pipeline.html

Friday, January 11, 2008
Report claims "major" Apple TV update in the pipeline

By AppleInsider Staff
Published: 11:00 AM EST

Apple is planning a major upgrade of its slow-selling Apple TV set-top box as part of a new offensive to try to boost its share of the digital video download market, according to BusinessWeek.

However, the business publication offers no details of the initiative other than to say that the new hardware device should arrive around the same time Apple launches its iTunes movie rental service.

Conversing with American Technology Research analyst Shaw Wu, BusinessWeek speculates that one possibility is that Apple might add a TV tuner to the product later this year.

The remainder of the report recounts the hurdles Apple chief executive Steve Jobs has faced while trying to replicate his success in the music business over in the digital video download sector.

It notes that Disney and Fox have agreed to support the upcoming iTunes rental service, but have different terms for when movies will be made available.

Independent Lions Gate, on the other hand, may agree to let Apple rent its stuff, but not sell its newer releases, the report adds.

Sony and Universal -- both fierce Apple rivals -- are unlikely to back the initiative.
 
Good speculatay

Apple TV does need a kick in the arse, to say the least

Not going to happen. How would a TV Tuner make Apple money? On Air TV is backwards thinking...which is why there WONT be a DVD drive in the Apple TV either and why there is no FM tuner in an iPod.
 
They better announced some advance for the UK market!
we cant even get movies from itunes.
+ we pay more for purchases - song in US: $0.99, song in UK: £0.79
but i heard they're reducing it to £0.74, thanks alot apple, made my day with that 5p:rolleyes:
 
They better announced some advance for the UK market!
we cant even get movies from itunes.
+ we pay more for purchases - song in US: $0.99, song in UK: £0.79
but i heard they're reducing it to £0.74, thanks alot apple, made my day with that 5p:rolleyes:

That makes sense. In places where you can't get video downloads, just get it off the air, that would mean the :apple:TV would also have DVR capabilities!
 
adding Blu-ray has no continual dollar for Apple. Its going to be rentals and probably the store. We might see a capacity jump but I dont see DVR, TV Tuner nor DVD/Blu-ray being added as Apple will only make the one sale and no continued media dollar.
 
adding Blu-ray has no continual dollar for Apple. Its going to be rentals and probably the store. We might see a capacity jump but I dont see DVR, TV Tuner nor DVD/Blu-ray being added as Apple will only make the one sale and no continued media dollar.

I am strongly inclined to agree.
 
Apple is trying to kill physical media. Why would they put a DVD player in their AppleTV?
 
Blue-Ray could be in the Apple TV and here's why.

Along with the rest of the world Apple realizes the war is over and BR won.As do the media giants. Selling BR is now going to be a top priority to both Apple and the media.

Several studios have been rumored to be jumping on board Apple's rental service. But with reasonable expectations. In order to sell more BR discs and downloads some have started including special iPod/iPhone versions on the discs. These can be synched through iTunes and could also be transferable via Bluetooth.

The new Apple TV could have bluetooth built in as the new Mac Pros do.Synch to any device in the home.

Folks would watch a BR disc on the Apple TV and at the same time synch a small version to your iPod/iPhone.Take it to work and show it to a co-worker.The co-worker likes the movie and goes out and buys the BR version so he too could watch a HD DVD and transfer a small file to their device thus perpetuating the sale of the physical disc.
Those not wanting to buy the BR disc can still download the DVD quality version and stream it to the TV via Apple TV.Friends come over and you show them the movie and they too decide to go get an Apple product or a BR disc.

And on it goes..
Perfect moneymaker for all involved.
 
Blue-Ray could be in the Apple TV and here's why.

Nope...here's why not......it will cost 600 bucks.

The cheapest bluray player is 350 bucks. You know Apple wants to make profit on this and wouldnt sell it anywhere near cost.

Blu Ray is NOT coming to the :apple:TV
 
I can't see blu ray coming when macs don't support it yet.

It would be great if it allowed external storage.
Some people are saying TVR but I can't see Apple competing with Elegato unless they allowed elgato devices to attach to the device - that would be cool :)

Digmo
www.digmo.tv
 
Nope...here's why not......it will cost 600 bucks.

The cheapest bluray player is 350 bucks. You know Apple wants to make profit on this and wouldnt sell it anywhere near cost.

Blu Ray is NOT coming to the :apple:TV

Try $250, and it's even cheaper now for external BD drives for PC's. The prices are coming down.
 
If Apple supports Blu Ray, Sony could make it's movies available on iTunes. Win Win

If Apple adds Blu-Ray to the :apple:tv, why bother downloading the content from the iTunes Store when you can just rent/own it? Especially when the latter offers higher quality?

It is the same reason they won't add DVR functionality. Why would I buy an episode of "24" in SD from the iTunes store when I can DVR it in HD from my cable provider?
 
A Tuner might be coming

I wonder if Apple is actually making any money from video downloads, I may be wrong but don't Apple make a paltry sum from downloaded music and the main reason is so they sell ipods ?

With the terms and conditions that the content providers want constantly changing it must be eating up loads of time and effort getting each new provider onboard, which could be used on profitable enterprises.

As we have seen the content providers aren't loyal to one system and change at the end of their contracts so it's not like they will get locked out forever if they don't make it work right at this minute. I wonder if Apple are considering stepping back from the content provision business till the companies come back with a more even keeled deal ?
 
I hope early adopters don't get hosed... although I am wondering if this statement about an Elgato EyeTv 3.0

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/01/13/elgato-to-release-eyetv-3-0-on-tuesday/

on the same day has anything to do with it ? perhaps a stronger link with the elgato software and AppleTV ?

It looks as if it is a major upgrade too, fingers crossed the news on AppleTV will be software rather than a new product (as an early adopter).

Digmo
www.digmo.tv
 
I read last week that this year cable tv will be standardized. Perhaps if apple puts a tuner and blu-ray plater in the atv, then they are counting on the standardization and planning on the atv being the only box you will need with your tv. I would buy that.
 
I still don't understand why anyone expects DVR or Blu-ray in the Apple TV.....It isn't going to happen folks. It is completely opposite of Apple's idea of a physical media-free world. Apple plans for the future and changes industries, they won't just bow to trendy new technologies to please a few dense people that bought an Apple TV wanting it to become something it isn't. It is a media bridge between iTunes and your TV......that's it. Apple doesn't care if all the "DVR-wishers" don't buy it, because that isn't who they are trying to sell it to. They are trying to sell it to people who DON'T WANT TO FOOL WITH CABLE ANYMORE, and DON'T WANT TO GO OUT TO BUY/RENT MOVIES ANYMORE.
 
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