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Hello registered Developers,

As a Public Beta tester I cannot find a list of known issues in iOS 9.3 beta. This makes it hard to tell which bugs to report to Apple through Feedback Assistant.

Could someone please post a link or a list of the current known issues here?

Many thanks
 
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Report all bugs you find. You don't have to only report issues you find in the current beta.

Thanks, nevertheless that doesn't solve my problem. It's redundant to report bugs that are already acknowledged. It's a waste of time for me as well as Apple. The list would be great.
 

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Thanks, nevertheless that doesn't solve my problem. It's redundant to report bugs that are already acknowledged. It's a waste of time for me as well as Apple. The list would be great.
Not necessarily, it can also surface that some issues are noticed by more people and that could affect their priority.
 

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Not necessarily, it can also surface that some issues are noticed by more people and that could affect their priority.

Again, I have filed 12 bug reports since PB1, I don't mind filing more. But as a serious tester I would REALLY like to read a list of known issues.
 

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Thanks, nevertheless that doesn't solve my problem. It's redundant to report bugs that are already acknowledged. It's a waste of time for me as well as Apple. The list would be great.

Well I don't think there are lists available outside of user created ones on forums such as this one. Developers have access to a webpage that often will include release notes and known issues. But to get access you need to pay the $99 yearly developer fee.

As for being redundant. It's beneficial to report bugs even if you know it's been reported but not yet fixed. Sometimes (and this doesn't just happen with Apple) if only a small amount of people report something, then it's priority to fix is lessened. The more people that report something the higher chance it may get resolved sooner or at all. (Not always the case because critical issues will always take priority over less critical.) but more feedback is always better. (Example being a bug gets reported by 85% of the beta users vs a bug only reported by 5%. Which one do you think will get more attention?)
 

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Well I don't think there are lists available outside of user created ones on forums such as this one. Developers have access to a webpage that often will include release notes and known issues. But to get access you need to pay the $99 yearly developer fee.

As for being redundant. It's beneficial to report bugs even if you know it's been reported but not yet fixed. Sometimes (and this doesn't just happen with Apple) if only a small amount of people report something, then it's priority to fix is lessened. The more people that report something the higher chance it may get resolved sooner or at all. (Not always the case because critical issues will always take priority over less critical.) but more feedback is always better. (Example being a bug gets reported by 85% of the beta users vs a bug only reported by 5%. Which one do you think will get more attention?)

As I wrote above:

I have filed 12 bug reports since PB1, I don't mind filing more. But as a serious tester I would REALLY like to read a list of known issues.

I don't think a list of bugs is sensitive or privileged information worth $99/year to beta testers (unless explicitly mentioned in the Developer Portal to which I have no access). I'm voluntarily helping Apple fix their bugs in my free time, for free. A stable software will contribute to their growth and popularity of business, and as a tester, much like a developer, I'm a part of its evolution.

I'm not here to debate the usefulness or effectivity of reporting issues. Thus my request once again, if anyone could please post the thread title, I'll be very grateful.
 
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As I wrote above:



I don't think a list of bugs is sensitive or privileged information to beta testers. I'm not here to debate the usefulness or effectivity of reporting issues. Thus my request once again, if anyone could please post the thread title, I'll be very grateful.

Well not even developers who pay the $99 get release notes or known issue notes for every beta build. People in the Public Beta Program have never had access to those notes.

So as I wrote above which you quoted. You probably won't find known issues list outside of user created ones on forums like his one.

There is no need to get in a hissy when the answer to your question isn't the answer you wanted to hear.
 

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Well not even developers who pay the $99 get release notes or known issue notes for every beta build.

That is in direct contradiction to the second sentence of your own post above. Please make up your mind. Also, there is indeed a list of known issues for 9.3b since several people referred to it in the 'iOS 9.3 Beta x Bug fixes, Changes and Performance Improvements' threads.

People in the Public Beta Program have never had access to those notes.

Do you realize that that is precisely the reason why I created this request?

There is no need to get in a hissy when the answer to your question isn't the answer you wanted to hear.

I'm getting hissy because you're beating around the bush and wasting my time. It's not my intention in the least to be rude. If you have the list and can post it here, I'll be immensely grateful. If not, please consider not replying on the merits of bug testing.
 
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That is in direct contradiction to the second sentence of your own post above. Please make up your mind. Also, there is indeed an a list of known issues for 9.3b since several people referred to it in the 'iOS 9.3 Beta x Bug fixes, Changes and Performance Improvements' threads.



Do you realize that that is precisely the reason why I created this request?



I'm getting hissy because you're beating around the bush and wasting my time. It's not my intention in the least to be rude. If you have the list and can post it here, I'll be immensely grateful. If not, please consider not replying on the merits of bug testing.

It's not a contradiction. Apple doesn't provide release/known issue notes to develipers for every single beta build but they do get them from Apple most the time.

Then get your list from those threads "if people refer to them" in those.

Apple doesn't provide any notes to the Public Beta Program. That's your answer, simple as that.
 

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That is in direct contradiction to the second sentence of your own post above. Please make up your mind. Also, there is indeed a list of known issues for 9.3b since several people referred to it in the 'iOS 9.3 Beta x Bug fixes, Changes and Performance Improvements' threads.



Do you realize that that is precisely the reason why I created this request?



I'm getting hissy because you're beating around the bush and wasting my time. It's not my intention in the least to be rude. If you have the list and can post it here, I'll be immensely grateful. If not, please consider not replying on the merits of bug testing.
There are release notes available for developers (for beta 3 I believe they are at https://developer.apple.com/go/?id=ios-9.3-sdk-rn), but I believe that's mostly it, aside from user compiled lists in some places (like the beta 3 thread here at https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...changes-and-performance-improvements.1955231/).
 

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It's not a contradiction. Apple doesn't provide release/known issue notes to develipers for every single beta build but they do get them from Apple most the time.

Then get your list from those threads "if people refer to them" in those.

Apple doesn't provide any notes to the Public Beta Program. That's your answer, simple as that.

I really don't understand why you need to complicate a simple thing to this extent! If you understood the basic forum rules, you'd know the Changes threads are only to discuss new findings and not for personal requests, hence this thread. Please don't advice around if you don't know something.

Also, I'm already aware of the fact that Apple does not provide release notes to PB testers, which is the sole reason why I created this request. I'm not asking Apple for a list of issues, I'm asking MacRumors Forum Members that happen to be developers for it, gosh!
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There are release notes available for developers (for beta 3 I believe they are at https://developer.apple.com/go/?id=ios-9.3-sdk-rn), but I believe that's mostly it, aside from user compiled lists in some places (like the beta 3 thread here at https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...changes-and-performance-improvements.1955231/).

Thanks! Do you have access to the developer page? If so, could you please post a screenshot or a text grab of the SDK build notes? I can see up to 9.2, but not 9.3.
 

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I really don't understand why you need to complicate a simple thing to this extent! If you understood the basic forum rules, you'd know the Changes threads are only to discuss new findings and not for personal requests, hence this thread. Please don't advice around if you don't know something.

Also, I'm already aware of the fact that Apple does not provide release notes to PB testers, which is the sole reason why I created this request. I'm not asking Apple for a list of issues, I'm asking MacRumors Forum Members that happen to be developers for it, gosh!
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Thanks! Do you have access to the developer page? If so, could you please post a screenshot or a text grab of the SDK build notes? I can see up to 9.2, but not 9.3.
I don't have access to it myself. Haven't really seen them posted for iOS 9.3 beta 3 in various places that I've checked.
 
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