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jeremiah256

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Requesting recommendations for a Windows tablet/hybrid to replace my Nexus 7.

I want to remain diverse in the devices I use. That was the one reason I, an Apple user, bought my Nexus 7 in 2012 instead of another iPad. I also loved the Nexus 7 form factor. I mainly needed it for the Kindle App (textbooks), reviewing documents (PDFs, Google Docs, Microsoft Office), and the occasional movie in bed. It worked perfectly, but is starting to feel slow. I loaded Windows 10 on an extra PC, i3 with 2GB RAM, and I'm impressed with the OS and for my next tablet would like to continue playing with Windows. The problem is that from my research, most of the Windows tablets being sold have crapware on them. This is one of the things that turned me off of Windows more than 10 years ago (use Macs and Chromebooks). If I buy an iOS tablet, I know what I'm getting. Same with an Android tablet. But I have no idea what I'll get buying a Windows device and I really don't feel like hunting through the registry, trying to defunk it. Other than the Surface Pro 3, are there devices that don't have manufacturer products preloaded? Are there pure Windows 8/8.1 tablets in the 8" form factor, preferably with 2GBs RAM and HDMI?
 

iBlazed

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I recommend the Best Buy "Unbranded" tablet/keyboard bundle. I have it, it's pretty amazing for the price. But it's low end so I'm not sure if it would meet your needs, it's my secondary machine. No crapware either.

Edit: Sorry, just realized you're looking for 8" form factor.
 

jeremiah256

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iBlazed

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iBlazed - no problems, will keep your recommendation in my back pocket as a backup.

hashholly - looks perfect, thank you very much!

The one thing you're probably going to notice is that full windows tablets have a significantly shorter battery life than an android tablet or iPad. But depending on how you use it, it may not be a big deal. That's the one real big downside to running a full OS instead of a mobile OS on such a small thin device.
 

jeremiah256

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The one thing you're probably going to notice is that full windows tablets have a significantly shorter battery life than an android tablet or iPad. But depending on how you use it, it may not be a big deal. That's the one real big downside to running a full OS instead of a mobile OS on such a small thin device.
Noted. I should be light to medium use most of the time off charge. Kindle app and Office 365 most of the time.
 

ozaz

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If you buy a "signature edition" tablet from the Microsoft store, it will be bloatware free. This asus tablet looks a pretty good low cost signature edition option with 2gb instead of 1gb ram:
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...-Signature-Edition-Tablet/productID.307626900

But I would consider paying a bit more and getting a Dell Venue 8 Pro or an Asus vivotab note 8. These tablets would allow you play around with the digital inking features of Windows and Office.
 

Mcdevidr

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The Winbook is a good deal. The 7 inch has a screen that is not that great. The 8 inch despite being bigger has a better quality screen. I picked up the cheaper tw800 for $59 after tax. Comes with office which sells for 20-25 so the tablet is only 40 dollars or so. If you can find the tw801 open box it's a good deal.

Biggest problem for me is these winbooks won't fit in the mountie to attach to my MacBook. I'd like to run one with synergy while using iPad with duet and a mountie, oh well.
 

Lloydbm41

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I must say that I like the Dell Venue 8 3840 and Dell Venue 8 Pro tablets.

I have the Venue 8 Pro and ideally, I believe Dell needs to make a Windows tablets with a higher end CPU and a minimum of 4GB. Not saying the 8 Pro is a bad tablet, it works fairly well, but it could be top notch with minor hardware upgrades.

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Requesting recommendations for a Windows tablet/hybrid to replace my Nexus 7.

I want to remain diverse in the devices I use. That was the one reason I, an Apple user, bought my Nexus 7 in 2012 instead of another iPad. I also loved the Nexus 7 form factor. I mainly needed it for the Kindle App (textbooks), reviewing documents (PDFs, Google Docs, Microsoft Office), and the occasional movie in bed. It worked perfectly, but is starting to feel slow. I loaded Windows 10 on an extra PC, i3 with 2GB RAM, and I'm impressed with the OS and for my next tablet would like to continue playing with Windows. The problem is that from my research, most of the Windows tablets being sold have crapware on them. This is one of the things that turned me off of Windows more than 10 years ago (use Macs and Chromebooks). If I buy an iOS tablet, I know what I'm getting. Same with an Android tablet. But I have no idea what I'll get buying a Windows device and I really don't feel like hunting through the registry, trying to defunk it. Other than the Surface Pro 3, are there devices that don't have manufacturer products preloaded? Are there pure Windows 8/8.1 tablets in the 8" form factor, preferably with 2GBs RAM and HDMI?
I know what you prefer, but if you are going to want something that runs as smooth as an iPad, I highly recommend that you don't skimp on a Windows tablet/hybrid. And I also 'highly' recommend that you get something with a minimum of 4GB of RAM.
 

ozaz

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I know what you prefer, but if you are going to want something that runs as smooth as an iPad, I highly recommend that you don't skimp on a Windows tablet/hybrid. And I also 'highly' recommend that you get something with a minimum of 4GB of RAM.

I've been happy with Bay Trail + 2GB RAM when it comes to sticking to the modern UI apps as well as doing light desktop-based tasks. I was not happy with Clover Trail + 2GB RAM. If someone has more ambitious tasks within the desktop, then yes, I agree more than 2GB is probably worth extra investment.
 
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spinedoc77

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I've been happy with Bay Trail + 2GB RAM when it comes to sticking to the modern UI apps as well as doing light desktop-based tasks. I was not happy with Clover Trail + 2GB RAM. If someone has more ambitious tasks within the desktop, then yes, I agree more than 2GB is probably worth extra investment.

Baytrail with 2gb is quite sufficient for any ipad-like functions, heck even 1gb is sufficient. 2gb is sufficient if you start getting into most desktop stuff as well.
 

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jeremiah256

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I know what you prefer, but if you are going to want something that runs as smooth as an iPad, I highly recommend that you don't skimp on a Windows tablet/hybrid. And I also 'highly' recommend that you get something with a minimum of 4GB of RAM.

I don't think I need iPad level smoothness, just something that feels as fast as my Nexus 7 did when it first came out in 2012 and has similar capabilities. And the WinBook TW801 has dropped to $99. That being said, with the recent Lenova fiasco, I'm even more hesitant to grab a non-Windows Signature edition tablet and have decided I'll wait until next week after Mobile World Congress to make a final decision.
 

jeremiah256

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HP Stream 7/8

It's on my list. So far nothing new Windows tablet wise from Mobile World Congress. Also noticed the WinBook TW801 is now $99, Baytrail processor, 2GB RAM, 32GB memory, with a full sized USB, micro-USB and micro HDMI. Even if WIN 10 isn't up to snuff yet for tablets, I may get this, nuke it with Windows 10 to get rid of any crapware, and be good to go.
 

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If you buy a "signature edition" tablet from the Microsoft store, it will be bloatware free. This asus tablet looks a pretty good low cost signature edition option with 2gb instead of 1gb ram:
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...-Signature-Edition-Tablet/productID.307626900

But I would consider paying a bit more and getting a Dell Venue 8 Pro or an Asus vivotab note 8. These tablets would allow you play around with the digital inking features of Windows and Office.

I've got this exact tablet and have had it for a couple months. I use it for light browsing and Microsoft Office for school work on the go, and it handles everything decently. Can't wait to get Windows 10 on it. I'd personally recommend this over the HP Steam 7 or 8. Another gigabyte of RAM, and better hardware design (and overall build quality) makes the extra dollars spent worth it in my opinion.
 

txa1265

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HP Stream 7/8

It's on my list. So far nothing new Windows tablet wise from Mobile World Congress. Also noticed the WinBook TW801 is now $99, Baytrail processor, 2GB RAM, 32GB memory, with a full sized USB, micro-USB and micro HDMI. Even if WIN 10 isn't up to snuff yet for tablets, I may get this, nuke it with Windows 10 to get rid of any crapware, and be good to go.

Just a note - performance of a cheap Windows tablet like the Stream 7 is *considerably* worse than an Android tablet like the Nexus 7 (first gen) or old Kindle Fire.
 

jeremiah256

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I've got this exact tablet and have had it for a couple months. I use it for light browsing and Microsoft Office for school work on the go, and it handles everything decently. Can't wait to get Windows 10 on it. I'd personally recommend this over the HP Steam 7 or 8. Another gigabyte of RAM, and better hardware design (and overall build quality) makes the extra dollars spent worth it in my opinion.

Thanks for the review/recommendation. I agree about the extra RAM and was trying to avoid the 1GB tablets. The reason I had the Asus further down on my list was it's micro-USB port. Lack of ports was one of the issues I had with the Nexus and so have been leaning toward tablets with a full sized USB port. Most of the time in class, me and my team handled all our documents via the cloud, but there were a few times when having a USB port on the Nexus would have been nice.

Just a note - performance of a cheap Windows tablet like the Stream 7 is *considerably* worse than an Android tablet like the Nexus 7 (first gen) or old Kindle Fire.

Thanks for the heads up. Looks like I'm going to have to take a road trip in order to get some hands on time. Stores nearby only have Android tablets powered up and on display.
 

txa1265

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No it isn't. I'm going by actual experience.

OK, I will defer to that :)

I only currently have the Fire HD in my house in terms of lower end stuff (as well as Fire HDX and Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4) ... so it is a hard comparison.

I was underwhelmed by performance, obviously ... but I might have been asking for too much of a PC-like experience.
 

Billy95Tech

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Baytrail with 2gb is quite sufficient for any ipad-like functions, heck even 1gb is sufficient. 2gb is sufficient if you start getting into most desktop stuff as well.


Sorry OP again. Do you mind helping me on a problem that i having on my Windows 8 tablet please Spinedoc as you have lots of experience with Windows 8 tablets? :)

It is a different problem.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1855522/
 
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