Resolved: Firmware 140.0.0.0.0, EFI GPU, Boot-up, WEB-drivers

[MikkelAD]

Hello,

I received instructions from this thread yesterday about firmware update...

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...th-w3xxx-xeons.2132317/page-121#post-27185345

The 140.0.0.0.0 firmware seems to work fine. Upgrading to Mojave is not an option at this point, so the purpose was just to get the newest firmware for my Mac Pro 5,1.

The computer didn't want to start at first and then I remembered about the METAL compatibility. As soon as my 5770 was removed it booted fine on my GTX 970.

For some reason I thought the 5770 first would become "useless" after the Mojave upgrade but it happened already with the firmware upgrade.

My question is!

Now that any EFI GPU (like my 5770) that don't have METAL support is USELESS how can I ever get to BOOT screen again when needed? E.g clean install, SIP acces any other?

Is the only resolution to flash the firmware back somehow? That is pretty complicated right?

...and since the 5770 isn't installed anymore my only solution when updating WEB drivers (GTX 970) is screen sharing with my iMac right?

Thanks in advance!

 

[tsialex]

Hello,

I received instructions from this thread yesterday about firmware update...

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...th-w3xxx-xeons.2132317/page-121#post-27185345

The 140.0.0.0.0 firmware seems to work fine. Upgrading to Mojave is not an option at this point, so the purpose was just to get the newest firmware for my Mac Pro 5,1.

The computer didn't want to start at first and then I remembered about the METAL compatibility. As soon as my 5770 was removed it booted fine on my GTX 970.

For some reason I thought the 5770 first would become "useless" after the Mojave upgrade but it happened already with the firmware upgrade.

My question is!

Now that any EFI GPU (like my 5770) that don't have METAL support is USELESS how can I ever get to BOOT screen again when needed? E.g clean install, SIP acces any other?

Is the only resolution to flash the firmware back somehow? That is pretty complicated right?

...and since the 5770 isn't installed anymore my only solution when updating WEB drivers (GTX 970) is screen sharing with my iMac right?

Thanks in advance!

You are mixing things.

BootROM 140.0.0.0.0 don't have nothing with GPU support. A lot of people here are using ATI HD 5770/5870 with 140.0.0.0.0 and High Sierra, Sierra and even earlier. GPU won't stop working or have anything changed with the new BootROMs.

Mojave makes any the original Mac Pro GPUs useless because it won't work with acceleration for any non-Metal GPU, just have the basic EFI drivers. Some people that don't need acceleration tolerates the slow UI, but most don't and just install the original GPU for diagnostics when needed.

Mojave don't work with NVIDIA and AMD GPUs at the same time, but you can still use your HD 5770 for diagnostics.

High Sierra worked with AMD and NVIDIA GPUs simultaneously, but with the last updates seems a lot of people can't get it working again.

 

[MikkelAD]

You are mixing things.

BootROM 140.0.0.0.0 don't have nothing with GPU support. A lot of people here are using ATI HD 5770/5780 with 140.0.0.0.0 and High Sierra, Sierra and even earlier. GPU won't stop working or have anything changed with the new BootROMs.

Mojave makes any the original Mac Pro GPUs useless because it won't work with acceleration for any non-Metal GPU, just have the basic EFI drivers. Some people that don't need acceleration tolerates the slow UI, but most don't and just use the original GPU with diagnostics.

Mojave don't work with NVIDIA and AMD GPUs at the same time, but you can still use your HD 5770 for diagnostics.

Well that is sort of good news. Thought I had misunderstood something from yesterday

High Sierra worked with AMD and NVIDIA GPUs simultaneously, but with the last updates seems a lot of people can't get it working again.

But that doesn't really solve my problem. I experienced problems way before loading in to High Sierra.
After the BootROM update (where I had my 5770 pulled out) I shut it down and connected my 5770 again. No matter what I did: CPU tray out, ram out, SMC reset the computer only did one of two things.

1) Pushing the power button resulted in just a "click" sound once and then nothing happened.

2) Pushing the power button turned the computer on but red indicator on CPU tray stayed on and CPU fan went crazy = no boot

-It only booted probably when I removed the 5770 and picture showed using the GTX 970...

 

[tsialex]

Well that is sort of good news. Thought I had misunderstood something from yesterday




But that doesn't really solve my problem. I experienced problems way before loading in to High Sierra.
After the BootROM update (where I had my 5770 pulled out) I shut it down and connected my 5770 again. No matter what I did: CPU tray out, ram out, SMC reset the computer only did 1 of two things.

1) Pushing the power button resulted in just a "click" sound once and then nothing happened.

2) Pushing the power button turned the computer on but red indicator on CPU tray stayed on and CPU fan went crazy = no boot

-It only turned on when I removed the 5770 and picture showed using the GTX 970...

You for sure have a problem, but it’s not related to 140.0.0.0.0. Troubleshoot and you will find that something else is the motive, you probably have a dying HD 5770 or something along the lines.

 

[MikkelAD]

You for sure have a problem, but it’s not related to 140.0.0.0.0. Troubleshoot and you will find that something else is the motive, you probably have a dying HD 5770 or something along the lines.

Well I tried unplugging and putting it all together again and IT WORKS!

Sometimes all that's needed is patience

When problems get solved like this is there anything speciel I can do to the thread?

Close it, mark it solved or anything?

 

[tsialex]

Well I tried unplugging and putting it all together again and IT WORKS!

Sometimes all that's needed is patience

When problems get solved like this is there anything speciel I can do to the thread?

Close it, mark it solved or anything?

Glad that you got it working.

Just edit the title and mark it resolved.

 

[alienkidmj12]

can i take my 5,1 upto rom 144.0.0.0.0 using high sierra and amd 5770 ?

 

[tsialex]

can i take my 5,1 upto rom 144.0.0.0.0 using high sierra and amd 5770 ?

No.