Rich notifications incredibly buggy or poorly designed?

[wankey]

I'm finding that I'm 3D touching a lot of notifications, only for them to popup a useless notification of the same text.

Even for mail, I get a jumble of text instead a nicely formatted mail message. Also where is the Archive / Delete options?

Nothing's changed for notifications since all the betas, so I'm a bit weary that it will be going out like this.

 

[TurboPGT!]

When you 3D Touch Notifications that have no actionable response, they have simply a "x" to dismiss them. It's a little awkward and I preferred Beta's 1 and 2, which placed a "Dismiss" actionable response under any notification that had none. Maybe that will come back before the end.

 

[Michael Goff]

I love how both possible options are negative ones.

 

[wankey]

It just feels like rich notification's a complete joke, design is all over the place and very un-apple like. (well actually very Apple-like, I'm looking at you Apple Music)

 

[StonewallBrown]

Sounds like a beta issue. Maybe reset settings. I've had zero of those issues.

 

[VSMacOne]

There is definitely more than can be done with them. I think this is a much better alternative that previous ones, but it's not very smooth, nor really helpful in some instances. Maybe we'll see 10.1 or 10.2 with improvements?

 

[StonewallBrown]

There is definitely more than can be done with them. I think this is a much better alternative that previous ones, but it's not very smooth, nor really helpful in some instances. Maybe we'll see 10.1 or 10.2 with improvements?

Or the release of 10.0?

 

[stooovie]

It's a mess and since we're already at beta 7, I don't expect it to get much better until 10.1 or whatever.

 

[StonewallBrown]

It's a mess and since we're already at beta 7, I don't expect it to get much better until 10.1 or whatever.

It's a mess for you and others. Not everyone has an issue. It's a beta. Theses are the type of things that happen in a beta. Even in a beta as polished as iOS 10.

 

[chekz0414]

When you 3D Touch Notifications that have no actionable response, they have simply a "x" to dismiss them. It's a little awkward and I preferred Beta's 1 and 2, which placed a "Dismiss" actionable response under any notification that had none. Maybe that will come back before the end.

You swipe down to dismiss like on  Watch.

 

[GreyOS]

my main issue is how unsmooth the whole process is, on iphone 6 at least. the jump from pulling down to a full screen UI doesn't feeel right

 

[TurboPGT!]

You swipe down to dismiss like on  Watch.

Wow, I had no idea. Ok, I'm glad for that, but thats not the least bit intuitive, especially since pulling down on a Notification has other functionality in other views of the OS.

 

[VSMacOne]

Or the release of 10.0?

It's possible that they're saving some goodies for then. But in previous years, I don't recall there being many changes from the beta to the GM unless it was tied to the phones that were being released.

 

[MacDevil7334]

Not sure why people are rolling out the tired "it's a beta" line here. These are clearly (poor) design decisions from Apple here. A few examples of how the new system is worse than iOS 9 from a design perspective:

1. In quick reply for Messages, if you start typing a longer message, the compose area no longer expands past 2.5 rows. In iOS 8-9, it would keep expanding for the length of your message. Also, if you decide you want to switch to the full messages app, whatever you typed already is erased and you have to start over. In iOS 8-9, any text you had already typed got carried over into the full app (though I seem to recall this not being fixed until iOS 8.1). On the bright side, the send button is located down by the keyboard rather than up in the banner notification like in iOS 8-9. Overall though, I think the iOS 10 implementation of quick reply is a downgrade from what has come before.
2. If you have a 3D Touch device, you hard press on a lock screen notification to get quick actions, which is great. However for everyone else, you still have to swipe right to left on the notification. But, instead of getting the quick actions like in iOS 8-9, that swipe now reveals a View button that you then have to tap to see the quick actions, adding an extra step to the process. What's worse, the expanded notification with the quick action buttons appears in a totally different area of the screen than where the original notification was, forcing you to move your hands to interact with it.
3. Notification banners are even more intrusive. This is a problem that has gotten worse and worse with each evolution of iOS. In iOS 5-6, banners took up the status bar and 1/2 of the navigation bar that lives at the top of common apps like Mail and Messages. Then, in iOS 7, banners started taking up the status bar plus the full navigation bar. Now in iOS 10 they take up even more space. You basically now have to dismiss them on an iPhone before you can get back to what you are doing.

I really like the 3D Touch quick actions for notifications on my 6S+. But the new system is a real downgrade on other devices. And several design choices are simply steps backward for no reason other than Apple wanted to change how notifications look.

 

[StonewallBrown]

It's possible that they're saving some goodies for then. But in previous years, I don't recall there being many changes from the beta to the GM unless it was tied to the phones that were being released.

That's true for new unique features for new hardware. This is just an issue of squashing bugs. Maybe it will be a 10.1 or 10.2 fix. Maybe 10.0. This is by far the smoothest beta, I've ever used on iOS. I'm cautiously optimistic.n
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Not sure why people are rolling out the tired "it's a beta" line here. These are clearly (poor) design decisions from Apple here. A few examples of how the new system is worse than iOS 9 from a design perspective:

1. In quick reply for Messages, if you start typing a longer message, the compose area no longer expands past 2.5 rows. In iOS 8-9, it would keep expanding for the length of your message. Also, if you decide you want to switch to the full messages app, whatever you typed already is erased and you have to start over. In iOS 8-9, any text you had already typed got carried over into the full app (though I seem to recall this not being fixed until iOS 8.1). On the bright side, the send button is located down by the keyboard rather than up in the banner notification like in iOS 8-9. Overall though, I think the iOS 10 implementation of quick reply is a downgrade from what has come before.
2. If you have a 3D Touch device, you hard press on a lock screen notification to get quick actions, which is great. However for everyone else, you still have to swipe right to left on the notification. But, instead of getting the quick actions like in iOS 8-9, that swipe now reveals a View button that you then have to tap to see the quick actions, adding an extra step to the process. What's worse, the expanded notification with the quick action buttons appears in a totally different area of the screen than where the original notification was, forcing you to move your hands to interact with it.
3. Notification banners are even more intrusive. This is a problem that has gotten worse and worse with each evolution of iOS. In iOS 5-6, banners took up the status bar and 1/2 of the navigation bar that lives at the top of common apps like Mail and Messages. Then, in iOS 7, banners started taking up the status bar plus the full navigation bar. Now in iOS 10 they take up even more space. You basically now have to dismiss them on an iPhone before you can get back to what you are doing.

I really like the 3D Touch quick actions for notifications on my 6S+. But the new system is a real downgrade on other devices. And several design choices are simply steps backward for no reason other than Apple wanted to change how notifications look.

What you term design decisions are personal opinions. We aren't talking about that here. We are talking about buggy software. You make some good points. You should submit them in feedback.

 

[WordMasterRice]

That's true for new unique features for new hardware. This is just an issue of squashing bugs. Maybe it will be a 10.1 or 10.2 fix. Maybe 10.0. This is by far the smoothest beta, I've ever used on iOS. I'm cautiously optimistic.n
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What you term design decisions are personal opinions. We aren't talking about that here. We are talking about buggy software. You make some good points. You should submit them in feedback.

It's not a bug, it's very obvious that it is working as intended. It's just that working as intended is a step backwards for most notifications.

I think that Messages is the only one that can be considered a step forward, and with the amount of space that is wasted on the lockscreen with messages I would put that in the 2 steps forward one step back sort of category.

Every year, without fail, people trot out this "it's a beta" line of reasoning. Every year they are wrong, and somehow they are back again the next year shouting the same thing.

 

[gwhizkids]

What you term design decisions are personal opinions. We aren't talking about that here. We are talking about buggy software. You make some good points. You should submit them in feedback.

Actually the thread title is "Rich notifications incredibly buggy or poorly designed?" So design is fair game here. I agree with many of his points. I know Apple frequently includes features that are available only on newer devices, but implementing those features does not usually result in a situation where older devices actually take a step backward (I'm sure someone will point me to all sorts of them, though!). Here, by favoring 3D touch with a GUI enhancement, non-3D Touch devices actually take a step backwards functionally. I would have been content to keep the old way of interacting with notifications and leave the new way to devices that can take advantage of them. My "hope" is that Apple will allow long touch to perform many of the same things as 3D Touch does. I'm sure they could do that (Android has), but I also understand that they have an investment in 3D Touch and giving us older-device users a functional equivalent is not going to recoup that investment for them. I'm ok with that. But don't make things worse in the process.

 

[StonewallBrown]

It's not a bug, it's very obvious that it is working as intended. It's just that working as intended is a step backwards for most notifications.

I think that Messages is the only one that can be considered a step forward, and with the amount of space that is wasted on the lockscreen with messages I would put that in the 2 steps forward one step back sort of category.

Every year, without fail, people trot out this "it's a beta" line of reasoning. Every year they are wrong, and somehow they are back again the next year shouting the same thing.

Every year the "it's a beta", crowd comes out, because it's true. It is a beta.

The lock screen and notifications have changed quite a few times this beta. If you don't like Apple's design decisions, that's your right. The bugginess and formatting errors, I am confident will be fixed

 

[Stuke00]

You realize that apps have not updated to use the new iOS 10 API's right?

 

[ashindnile]

You realize that apps have not updated to use the new iOS 10 API's right?

Everyone here's basically talking about the messages app, which is.

 

[wankey]

Everyone here's basically talking about the messages app, which is.

Messages, Calendar and Mail app, if they are indications of what's going to happen, then rich notification's are a bit flop.

 

[netsped]

I think notifications are one of the worst new features. Being what they did to control center on top with it. I can live with the new Music app and I don't plan on using most of iMessage new features.

But I just saw a video of Android N and WOW... the way the notification center works is just mind blowing. Why didn't Apple thought of something similar. I think it's an amazing solution. Why would I want my display filled with 8 notifications of the same app.

BTW, that Android N looks really well designed.

The notifications part is showed around second 45.

 

[bjones521]

I feel that notifications are a stepback from ios9. Its actually one of the only things I can say I dislike about ios10.

For those with an 6Splus its now almost impossible (for me) to force touch the top of the screen to interact with notifications. It was much easier to just swip down like ios9. Also, swiping down to view notifications is a disaster to me. From someone that gets a lot of personal emails, espn notifications, couple messages, texts, facebook ect. I would love to be able to just clear the espn ones or just the texts like I could in ios9. Now each notification has to be cleared individually. smh

 

[gwhizkids]

I am willing to give Apple the benefit of the doubt on this until final release and 3rd party apps start using them.