Well first of all, you never told us what the pricing of the used Mbps that you were looking at. At $370 then that makes sense and changes the whole context of this conversation.
Porsche argument does not apply to laptops. Old laptops eventually dies and has no value nor usefulness. Porsche can be fixed and retains value much better. If you are a frugal business owner, thinking about luxury (vintage or mot) is beyond me...
Also if you use Final Cut Pro then of course you need a MBP.. next time please share the whole context.
Well to be fair it's you who are talking about the m1, though nothing in the thread was about that model.
Not that I don't appricate the suggestion and I do get the point ... and I don't mind trying to explain the logic behind my choices of a 2013-2015 13" rmbp either... but still I was asking for the best of the 3, therefor not needing to clarify not wanting to use windows.
As for frugal business it's a rather private topic, but in short I have allot of money invested in a project and I haven't pulled money out (paid salary to myself) since before covid where all our clients bankrupted... Won't go into details but for the next year or so, everytime I pull out 1000 to use for my private stuff, it can costs me 30.000... I simply can't get the money out for a 16 gb 500 ssd m1 (which I need it to be)... and I can't wait a week, least of all 3 months to buy one, I need a mobile mac right now... where I might easily can get them out in the next year or two for whatever model I want...
In a year or 2 or 3, whatever model I want should be a better deal and also, perhaps there is even better deals to choose from; who knows what wonders apple will produce in 2024-2025 ... I have never bought the newest models when it comes to apple ... I always wait 3 generations to see what errors gets fixed and what improvements are made ... I then keep these flawless models for a long time... that goes for things like Iphones, Apple tv and so on... Right now I'm on an iPhone 8 and still more than satisfied with it.
Old Porches age and dies as well; I'll tell you from a perspective of a person who have owned 2 911's and back there everyone also told me to buy a newer one because they where twice as fast ...
The main thing is that this machine replaces an almost identical machine that I loved; and that still fully served my needs.
To explain my macbook history, this 2014 rmbp was the second mac I ever bought and the first modern mac.
I was a thinkpad geek before, having owned more than 9 thinkpads in the past, restoring them and stuff.
This macbook was my first real mac love and it was love at first use ... this was in 2014 and in a week I was fully switched into the mac eco system and have been ever since ... when the new series of the 2016 came out I thought it might be smart to upgrade to have the newest ... but I hated the 2016 rmbp and returned it and went back to my trusty 2014 rmbp ... I have never looked a head since ... because it has been covering my needs flawlessly and been such a good experience to work on (all the time) ... now obviously (the other day) when it broke my first thought was looking into a 2017,2018, 2019 ... but guys in here told me it had the same keyboard flaws that made me hate the 2016... so I made the choice to seek down the best 2013-2015 I could within as limited a budget as I could make.
This way I will have a machine that I know I will be satisfied me at least 1-2-3 years more.
And then options will open up.
I do use allot of linux; but a windows PC would not suit my needs... adobe and final cut on linux yiiiks... it would be better in terms of processor power and speed; but not when it comes to everything else that makes me work on macs and makes me love macs... a windows PC would be a horrible tool for my job.
Also lets be real for a sec and look past how ads effect our thinking... I did the same type of design work as a designer, developer and advertising man as I do now - in 2006 - and here is the kicker: I did it all on the original macbook and t40p thinkpad (that had a special chip I mostly used to render maya with)... Back then that 2006 macbook could deliver all the outputs I deliver now ... not saying nothing have changed or the software and OS (back then I used FreeBSD allot) have not become allot more demanding, but that macbook ran a local webserver, it ran Illustrator and Photoshop ... my work was almost just as good being preformed on those machines - as now, and I'm not sure you could really tell the work outputs that much apart... of cause there was allot of waiting time (as a designer I would call it thinking time), you just used the time to think over design decisions while it processes the work ... not a big deal... but obviously my work experience have improved a million times since then on these newer machines.
Eventually I bought the first macbook air and after I have had it for a week the hindges broke and I turned fully into Ibm => Lenovo thinkpads untill this newer macbook in 2014 ...
Also remember cloud computing works great for me here ... if I ever play games or whatever extreme power I might need, cloud computing works flawless for me.
As for luxery, why not give one self the luxery that is possible?
I guess that often seperate a mac guy from a windows guy.
My experience while working is important to me, working thousinds of hours; it's my life ticking away.
I care just as much about having a good experience while working as I do for the productivity and output .
Obviously the new m1 would be awesome ... but in reality I'm not sure it would change all that much for me ... perhaps some ... but not essential things... specs I don't esentially needs or which won't improve my work much is luxery as well, but more in the line of luxery I can't afford for the next year or two.
