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Dewdman42

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I recently updated my macPro to Monterey 12.7.6 and now I am getting repeated crashing of the routined deamon. Anyone have any idea what might be causing this or how I can correct it?
 

bogdanw

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According to Apple (man routined), routined is “A daemon that learns the historical location patterns of a user”.

You can try to fix the crash by turning location services on/off and deleting the routined folder (~/Library/Containers/com.apple.routined).

As I have SIP disabled, I completely disabled routined from starting:

Code:
launchctl bootout gui/501/com.apple.routined

launchctl disable gui/501/com.apple.routined
 

Dewdman42

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I already have sip disabled also. I did turn off location services in system prefs last night and this morning there is no routined crash window so maybe that is all that is needed. This is a desktop macpro and I don’t think it ever had reliable location info anyway. Maybe that is all that is needed? What is the purpose of removing the container folder? I’m a little nervous about that one but also wondering if that is corrupted data then would removing it and then turning location services back on possibly resolve the issue ?
 

bogdanw

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What is the purpose of removing the container folder? I’m a little nervous about that one but also wondering if that is corrupted data then would removing it and then turning location services back on possibly resolve the issue ?
It contains the files generated by routined under your user account. It can be safely deleted and it will be recreated by routined.
As far as I know, disabling routined does not affect locations services because they are managed by other daemon - locationd.
 

Dewdman42

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interesting. Well since I disabled location services...the problem seems like it went away....but anyway I will remove the container folder for routined and see what happens for a while. I have not disabled the routined launchd entry yet..I'll leave that alone for a minute to see what happens. later tonight if no errors I will turn location services back on to see what happens and finally if I continue getting the problem I will disable it in launchd. I don't think I really need this service anyway because its a desktop computer, but I prefer to leave it enabled if possible.
 

Dewdman42

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Jul 25, 2008
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yea so its still happening. I will disable routined for now. But does anyone have any idea why this is happening at all? I mean, turning off routined is kind of a bandaid to stop the crash message, but why is this happening to me and not to everyone else? And suddenly since updating to 17.7.6?

Here is the crash log in case anyone has any ideas:

Code:
-------------------------------------
Translated Report (Full Report Below)
-------------------------------------

Process:               routined [934]
Path:                  /usr/libexec/routined
Identifier:            routined
Version:               ???
Code Type:             X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:        launchd [1]
User ID:               501

Date/Time:             2024-10-02 21:14:40.6147 -0600
OS Version:            macOS 12.7.6 (21H1320)
Report Version:        12
Anonymous UUID:        E25972D5-6038-8F07-229A-28295B064A74


Time Awake Since Boot: 45 seconds

System Integrity Protection: disabled

Crashed Thread:        8  Dispatch queue: RTEventModelProvider-0x7fcd44810210

Exception Type:        EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes:       0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note:        EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Application Specific Information:
abort() called


Application Specific Backtrace 0:
0   CoreFoundation                      0x00007ff81ac66deb __exceptionPreprocess + 242
1   libobjc.A.dylib                     0x00007ff81a9c7b34 objc_exception_throw + 48
2   CoreFoundation                      0x00007ff81ad2265b _CFThrowFormattedException + 194
3   CoreFoundation                      0x00007ff81ad20290 -[__NSArrayM insertObject:atIndex:].cold.2 + 0
4   CoreFoundation                      0x00007ff81ab8d8cd -[__NSArrayM insertObject:atIndex:] + 990
5   libcoreroutine.dylib                0x00007ff8297c0c70 -[RTLocationOfInterest(RTExtensions) initWithLearnedLocationOfInterest:] + 456
6   libcoreroutine.dylib                0x00007ff8297c1093 +[RTLocationOfInterest(RTExtensions) locationsOfInterestFromLearnedLocationsOfInterest:] + 326
7   libcoreroutine.dylib                0x00007ff8296e3c93 __54-[RTEventModelProvider _restoreEventModelWithHandler:]_block_invoke_2 + 241
8   libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007ff81a96d0cc _dispatch_call_block_and_release + 12
9   libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007ff81a96e317 _dispatch_client_callout + 8
10  libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007ff81a974317 _dispatch_lane_serial_drain + 672
11  libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007ff81a974e30 _dispatch_lane_invoke + 417
12  libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007ff81a97eeee _dispatch_workloop_worker_thread + 753
13  libsystem_pthread.dylib             0x00007ff81ab21fd0 _pthread_wqthread + 326
14  libsystem_pthread.dylib             0x00007ff81ab20f57 start_wqthread + 15


Thread 0::  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                0x7ff81aae893a mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libsystem_kernel.dylib                0x7ff81aae8ca8 mach_msg + 56
2   CoreFoundation                        0x7ff81abec450 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 319
3   CoreFoundation                        0x7ff81abeaae0 __CFRunLoopRun + 1276
4   CoreFoundation                        0x7ff81abe9f24 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 562
5   Foundation                            0x7ff81b97fb5a -[NSRunLoop(NSRunLoop) runMode:beforeDate:] + 216
6   Foundation                            0x7ff81ba0a5a7 -[NSRunLoop(NSRunLoop) run] + 76
7   routined                                 0x100bc136c 0x100bbb000 + 25452
8   dyld                                     0x101c5652e start + 462

Thread 1:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab20f48 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 2::  Dispatch queue: NSManagedObjectContext 0x7fcd42328a20: routined
0   CoreData                              0x7ff820b01036 -[NSFaultHandler turnObject:intoFaultWithContext:] + 374
1   CoreData                              0x7ff820b511ca -[NSManagedObjectContext reset] + 474
2   CoreData                              0x7ff820ac981e developerSubmittedBlockToNSManagedObjectContextPerform + 158
3   libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a96e317 _dispatch_client_callout + 8
4   libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a974317 _dispatch_lane_serial_drain + 672
5   libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a974dfd _dispatch_lane_invoke + 366
6   libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a97eeee _dispatch_workloop_worker_thread + 753
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab21fd0 _pthread_wqthread + 326
8   libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab20f57 start_wqthread + 15

Thread 3:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab20f48 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 4:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab20f48 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 5::  Dispatch queue: SQLQueue 0x7fcd422377d0 for Cloud-V2.sqlite
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                0x7ff81aae934a __fcntl + 10
1   libsystem_kernel.dylib                0x7ff81aae9303 fcntl + 170
2   libsqlite3.dylib                      0x7ff820f59dc2 unixSync + 178
3   libsqlite3.dylib                      0x7ff820f72507 sqlite3WalCheckpoint + 5303
4   libsqlite3.dylib                      0x7ff820f96ac8 sqlite3Checkpoint + 808
5   libsqlite3.dylib                      0x7ff820f96704 sqlite3_wal_checkpoint_v2 + 436
6   libsqlite3.dylib                      0x7ff820f59ff1 sqlite3WalDefaultHook + 49
7   libsqlite3.dylib                      0x7ff820f2ad88 sqlite3_step + 2792
8   CoreData                              0x7ff820ac0679 _execute + 201
9   CoreData                              0x7ff820b342d9 -[NSSQLiteConnection commitTransaction] + 889
10  CoreData                              0x7ff820b281ff _executeSaveChangesRequest + 7055
11  CoreData                              0x7ff820b26505 -[NSSQLSaveChangesRequestContext executeRequestCore:] + 21
12  CoreData                              0x7ff820ad3f8a -[NSSQLStoreRequestContext executeRequestUsingConnection:] + 426
13  CoreData                              0x7ff820ad3c28 __52-[NSSQLDefaultConnectionManager handleStoreRequest:]_block_invoke + 56
14  CoreData                              0x7ff820abb38c __37-[NSSQLiteConnection performAndWait:]_block_invoke + 28
15  libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a96e317 _dispatch_client_callout + 8
16  libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a97b7ee _dispatch_lane_barrier_sync_invoke_and_complete + 60
17  CoreData                              0x7ff820abb297 -[NSSQLiteConnection performAndWait:] + 151
18  CoreData                              0x7ff820ad3933 -[NSSQLDefaultConnectionManager handleStoreRequest:] + 259
19  CoreData                              0x7ff820ad37f9 -[NSSQLCoreDispatchManager routeStoreRequest:] + 313
20  CoreData                              0x7ff820ad3118 -[NSSQLCore dispatchRequest:withRetries:] + 200
21  CoreData                              0x7ff820ad0273 -[NSSQLCore executeRequest:withContext:error:] + 3571
22  CoreData                              0x7ff820c285d3 __65-[NSPersistentStoreCoordinator executeRequest:withContext:error:]_block_invoke.674 + 15731
23  CoreData                              0x7ff820acf036 -[NSPersistentStoreCoordinator _routeHeavyweightBlock:] + 262
24  CoreData                              0x7ff820ace807 -[NSPersistentStoreCoordinator executeRequest:withContext:error:] + 1943
25  CoreData                              0x7ff820afce5d -[NSManagedObjectContext save:] + 1949
26  CoreData                              0x7ff820b9400f __69-[PFCloudKitMetadataModelMigrator commitMigrationMetadataAndCleanup:]_block_invoke + 11439
27  CoreData                              0x7ff820ac981e developerSubmittedBlockToNSManagedObjectContextPerform + 158
28  libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a96e317 _dispatch_client_callout + 8
29  libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a97b7ee _dispatch_lane_barrier_sync_invoke_and_complete + 60
30  CoreData                              0x7ff820ac9735 -[NSManagedObjectContext performBlockAndWait:] + 277
31  CoreData                              0x7ff820b81792 -[PFCloudKitMetadataModelMigrator checkAndPerformMigrationIfNecessary:] + 498
32  CoreData                              0x7ff820b81478 +[PFCloudKitMetadataModel checkAndRepairSchemaOfStore:withManagedObjectContext:error:] + 280
33  CoreData                              0x7ff820b80d4f __56-[PFCloudKitSetupAssistant _checkAndInitializeMetadata:]_block_invoke + 255
34  CoreData                              0x7ff820b80b98 -[PFCloudKitStoreMonitor performBlock:] + 72
35  CoreData                              0x7ff820b80a8c -[PFCloudKitSetupAssistant _checkAndInitializeMetadata:] + 204
36  CoreData                              0x7ff820b80926 -[PFCloudKitSetupAssistant _initializeCloudKitForObservedStore:] + 54
37  CoreData                              0x7ff820b7f7e5 __52-[NSCloudKitMirroringDelegate _performSetupRequest:]_block_invoke + 213
38  CoreData                              0x7ff820c92866 __92-[NSCloudKitMirroringDelegate _openTransactionWithLabel:assertionLabel:andExecuteWorkBlock:]_block_invoke + 54
39  libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a96d0cc _dispatch_call_block_and_release + 12
40  libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a96e317 _dispatch_client_callout + 8
41  libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a974317 _dispatch_lane_serial_drain + 672
42  libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a974e30 _dispatch_lane_invoke + 417
43  libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a97eeee _dispatch_workloop_worker_thread + 753
44  libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab21fd0 _pthread_wqthread + 326
45  libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab20f57 start_wqthread + 15

Thread 6:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab20f48 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 7:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab20f48 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 8 Crashed::  Dispatch queue: RTEventModelProvider-0x7fcd44810210
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                0x7ff81aaeefce __pthread_kill + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab251ff pthread_kill + 263
2   libsystem_c.dylib                     0x7ff81aa70d14 abort + 123
3   libc++abi.dylib                       0x7ff81aae1082 abort_message + 241
4   libc++abi.dylib                       0x7ff81aad225d demangling_terminate_handler() + 266
5   libobjc.A.dylib                       0x7ff81a9cf01a _objc_terminate() + 96
6   libc++abi.dylib                       0x7ff81aae04a7 std::__terminate(void (*)()) + 8
7   libc++abi.dylib                       0x7ff81aae0458 std::terminate() + 56
8   libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a96e32b _dispatch_client_callout + 28
9   libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a974317 _dispatch_lane_serial_drain + 672
10  libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a974e30 _dispatch_lane_invoke + 417
11  libdispatch.dylib                     0x7ff81a97eeee _dispatch_workloop_worker_thread + 753
12  libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab21fd0 _pthread_wqthread + 326
13  libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab20f57 start_wqthread + 15

Thread 9:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab20f48 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 10:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab20f48 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 11:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab20f48 start_wqthread + 0

Thread 12:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib               0x7ff81ab20f48 start_wqthread + 0


Thread 8 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
  rax: 0x0000000000000000  rbx: 0x000070000d400000  rcx: 0x000070000d3ff2c8  rdx: 0x0000000000000000
  rdi: 0x0000000000003c27  rsi: 0x0000000000000006  rbp: 0x000070000d3ff2f0  rsp: 0x000070000d3ff2c8
   r8: 0x000070000d3ff190   r9: 0x00007ff81aae3f9b  r10: 0x0000000000000000  r11: 0x0000000000000246
  r12: 0x0000000000003c27  r13: 0x0000003000000008  r14: 0x0000000000000006  r15: 0x0000000000000016
  rip: 0x00007ff81aaeefce  rfl: 0x0000000000000246  cr2: 0x0000000000000000
 
Logical CPU:     0
Error Code:      0x02000148
Trap Number:     133


Binary Images:
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External Modification Summary:
  Calls made by other processes targeting this process:
    task_for_pid: 0
    thread_create: 0
    thread_set_state: 0
  Calls made by this process:
    task_for_pid: 0
    thread_create: 0
    thread_set_state: 0
  Calls made by all processes on this machine:
    task_for_pid: 0
    thread_create: 0
    thread_set_state: 0

VM Region Summary:
ReadOnly portion of Libraries: Total=1.1G resident=0K(0%) swapped_out_or_unallocated=1.1G(100%)
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Full Report
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