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laserfox

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p-RZAwQq0E

Not to start a flame war, but the HP Slate does look usable. I know Windows 7 is not suited for touch input but HP seems to have built a nice suite of touch apps that covers the main use of an internet slate. Plus I'd tweak Windows 7 to display lager icons etc for easy touch.

Also according to leaks Engadget the price is rumored at $540 (40 more than entry iPad) not bad considering you get the luxury of usb port, web cam, sd reader without needing to buy accessories!

I can imagine it'd be aimple to just plug in your desktop keyboard or use any of your bluetooth peripherals. Also the netbook internals is not that bad considering I have a netbook that runs Windows 7 and Snow Leopard like a dream.

MS Onenote is indispensable to me so I'd be happy to try this.


Your thoughts?
 
If Flash is a "must have" for you, then your path is set. For me, it's just a luxury. I can live without it. Also, I don't use Windows and prefer not too if possible.

iPad has the features I want/need, so that's where I'm going.

I'm surprised that the HP slate device is so pricey given that 1) it uses Windows and 2) it's basically a scaled-down PC.

I expected to see it launch about $100-$150 under iPad to compete.
 
I've already had my go-round with Windows-based tablet PCs, and the thought has zero appeal now.

(Whenever I think about the Flash debate, I think about the fact that I've been using the Flashblock-type plugins in my browsers for years, since its primary usage seems to be irritating ads. But I don't get into youtube or hulu much, so...)
 
It uses an Atom processor though. The processor is crap. It's a touch screen netbook.

This.

Atom based netbooks are LAGGY. Saying otherwise just proves that you've not used one for long enough or in a broad enough series of usage scenarios.

We need to stop confusing checking a box on a spec sheet with the quality and usability of a product.
 
I wonder what the battery life will be on a device on this running flash based websites as well. I beat no where near as long as what the iPad can offer.

Hell the last Netbook I owned had a 10 hour battery attached to it and it had to be extended. And it never got 10 hours of usage off of it.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p-RZAwQq0E

Not to start a flame war, but the HP Slate does look usable. I know Windows 7 is not suited for touch input but HP seems to have built a nice suite of touch apps that covers the main use of an internet slate. Plus I'd tweak Windows 7 to display lager icons etc for easy touch.

Also according to leaks Engadget the price is rumored at $540 (40 more than entry iPad) not bad considering you get the luxury of usb port, web cam, sd reader without needing to buy accessories!

I can imagine it'd be aimple to just plug in your desktop keyboard or use any of your bluetooth peripherals. Also the netbook internals is not that bad considering I have a netbook that runs Windows 7 and Snow Leopard like a dream.

MS Onenote is indispensable to me so I'd be happy to try this.


Your thoughts?

I think we all should just wait till its out and people have reviewed it.

The questions I have are, is it responsive with finger input and is it multi-touch? What's the battery life? What type of screen is it? Is there an HP app store for all multi-touch apps?

At least with Apple, we know what we're getting for multi-touch apps. The problem I foresee with HP and windows tablets are the applications. Onenote is awesome and ready for tablets, but what about other apps?
 
Netbook CPU, Desktop OS. Not interested no matter how many USB ports and other ports they add. I'm sure they will sell plenty to all those who must have the USB, SD, cam etc... it's probably one of a dozen that will launch yet this year to satisfy those "check list" buyers that need every options possible.
 
Well I spent my entire working career supporting Windows PC's. Just as soon as I retired I switched over to Macs. I thought about buying a Windows laptop instead of an iPad but the thought of going back to the Windows world is just too depressing even to consider. I just have no wish to fight virus', spyware, daily updates and crashes again even if I have to give up some functionality.
 
The $540 price mentioned was a conversion from GBP to dollars. This will probably not be the US price and am willing to bet the US price will be on par with the iPad's $499 if not lower.
 
From everything I've seen on the HP Slate, it basically looks like a semi-improved Archos 9 PCtablet - which is also essentially a netbook core turned into a slate. I think/hope HP has spent more time getting there unit to be more user friendly out of the box. Now the A9 has been discussed in enough threads at this point that it's probably not worth talking about too much more in this one, but things we can probably guesstimate from it are:

Pricing: $549 (originally $499 for the A9), so this is completely in line given that the specs appear to be similar. Someone above mentioned Windows as a reason for it to be cheaper, but it's really the opposite, generally putting Windows onto a machine jacks the price up by at least $50.

Weight: the Archos weighs 1.8ish pounds IIRC, I'm guessing the HP will come right around there as well.

Battery Life: the Archos does about 4-5 hours, so assuming the same processor, the HP will probably be similar unless it bumps up the weight with a larger battery
 
I wonder if it will run a touch version of an industrial strength Antivirus app
 
I wonder if it will run a touch version of an industrial strength Antivirus app
Windows Live Security Essentials. Free. Low impact compared to any other free antivirus for PCs. Seems to work great. Doesn't need anything special for touch input.
 
It's a touch screen netbook.

This one line says it all.

What I'm seeing happen with the iPad is, I think, exactly what we saw with the iPhone. The iPhone came out and all of a sudden there were all these "iPhone Killers" that were nothing more than phones that already existed slapped into a (not very good) touch screen form factor. Remember the LG Voyager? That thing was crap. It was nothing more than LGs existing phone interfaces shoved into a touch screen phone. It wasn't until we started seeing phones that challenged the operational design of the iPhone that we started seeing any real threats (i.e. Pre, Android phones).

The same thing is happening with the HP Slate. It is nothing more than an HP netbook shoved into a touchscreen form factor.

Hey, HP, that's not the point!!!
 
By hours and hours of video from a single charge, does that me 2 hours? 3 hours? or 10? It sounds great, but the OS is a mess...
 
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