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Poncho

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I've just ordered a 2019 Macbook Pro that will be running Catalina and am planning to run Parallels on it inside a virtual machine that will be running Sierra as Sierra will run Adobe CS3. But I am wondering if the architecture of the 2019 Macbook Pro will not support Adobe CS3 running on Sierra in a virtual machine, even though this can be done on a machine that will support Sierra out of the box (eg, a 2015 Macbook Pro). So is it just the operating system that will not allow 32-bit apps to run or is it the chips that make up the architechture. Anyone tried this? I have two days to cancel my order...
 

Taz Mangus

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According to the article below you can run Mojave in a virtual machine on Catalina which will allow you to run 32-bit apps. So you should be good to go using Sierra to run your 32-bits apps.

 

Poncho

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Thanks for that. A huge help, though now I am unsure that getting this to work will be that easy and am also concerned that the article says some apps such as Mail won't load in the virtual machine.
 

Boyd01

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I just setup virtual Sierra and Mountain Lion machines under Catalina on a new Mac mini running Parallels. It works perfectly for me, and lets me use my old copies of VectorWorks 2008, Strata 3d cx and FileMaker Pro 11 which would cost more than $3000 to replace. It was not difficult to do, although I had to figure a lot of it out for myself.

I also have an old copy of Photoshop CS3 that I ran on my 2013 MacBook Air under Sierra but it was never as stable as it was on older versions of MacOS (such as Mountain Lion). Was going to run this on Parallels, but after some consideration I decided it just wasn't worth the effort, so I subscribed to the Adobe Photography plan. Like most people, I dislike software subscriptions, but for $100/year this seemed worthwhile and I'm much happier with the newer software. Anyway, I did not test CS3 on my virtual machine, but since my other high-end CAD/3d software runs I suspect it will work. If you're going to do this, I'd suggest using an older version of MacOS for the virtual machine, such as Mountain Lion, for better compatibility. The only caveat is that I don't know what graphics card/chip your new MBP has or whether that will be a problem (I suspect it will be fine though). My new Mini has integrated Intel UHD 630 graphics.

All of the articles I found on setting up virtual machines were based on using an original MacOS installer. But I found they could also easily be created from a clone of an old computer. Connect the disk with the clone and create a new virtual machine using the disk image/usb option in Parallels. That is really all you need to do to get up and running, but its a bit confusing. Actually, the vitual machine you create will not have an operating system and will just boot from the clone disk, so it only works when that disk is connected to your computer. But notice that it creates an empty system disk in the virtual machine. You can use Carbon Copy (time machine should also work) to restore the clone disk to the virtual machine and then it will work without the external drive connected.

Anyway, I'm very happy with how this works and it's saved me quite a bit of money on software I thought I'd need to update. Am also running Windows 10 under Parallels, which is noticeably faster than my old PC and works perfectly with my old software.
 

chrfr

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I've just ordered a 2019 Macbook Pro that will be running Catalina and am planning to run Parallels on it inside a virtual machine that will be running Sierra as Sierra will run Adobe CS3. But I am wondering if the architecture of the 2019 Macbook Pro will not support Adobe CS3 running on Sierra in a virtual machine, even though this can be done on a machine that will support Sierra out of the box (eg, a 2015 Macbook Pro). So is it just the operating system that will not allow 32-bit apps to run or is it the chips that make up the architechture. Anyone tried this? I have two days to cancel my order...
You can run your 32-bit apps in a virtual machine that runs Sierra without a problem for the most part, but graphics are not accelerated when virtualizing macOS. Consequently CS3 performance is likely to be pretty poor, depending on what you're doing. CS3 also isn't fully compatible with Sierra so you might have issues because of that too.
 
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