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danallen

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Looking at RX 580 Sapphire Pulse graphics cards for 2012 MacPro 5,1. Everything I read says this will work great, especially if am ok running this without the mac boot screen.

There is one detail I am wondering about. I see various pci versions on these cards. This macpro has pci 2.0 slots. Is it ok to run GPU with pci 3.0 connection? I read something pci backward compatiblity, so I think it will be ok.

Any information you can provide will be much appreciated.
 
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avro707

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There is one detail I am wondering about. I see various pci versions on these cards. This macpro has pci 2.0 slots. Is it ok to run GPU with pci 3.0 connection? I read something pci backward compatiblity, so I think it will be ok

They work fine, just make sure you get the right power cable to run them.

If the Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB is a bit hard to find, you can also use a Sapphire RX6600XT 8GB and flash that (using a PC) so that it is compatible with the 5,1 Mac Pro. You will need MacOS Monterey however.
 
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Macschrauber

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Looking at RX 580 Sapphire Pulse graphics cards for 2012 MacPro 5,1. Everything I read says this will work great, especially if am ok running this without the mac boot screen.

There is one detail I am wondering about. I see various pci versions on these cards. This macpro has pci 2.0 slots. Is it ok to run GPU with pci 3.0 connection? I read something pci backward compatiblity, so I think it will be ok.

Any information you can provide will be much appreciated.

Bootscreen is no issue anymore, thanks to EnableGop:

(for the not too tech savy)

Macrumors EnableGop thread: #1
 

danallen

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Yes. I used one a few years ago, and it worked perfectly!
Thank you for responding. Just to clarify, so I can be certain, was your RX 580 flashed with whatever it is tha causes the boot screen to appear? I am trying to make certain that R 580 Sapphire Pulse without the Mac flash will run my 2012 MacPro 5,1
 

danallen

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They work fine, just make sure you get the right power cable to run them.

If the Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB is a bit hard to find, you can also use a Sapphire RX6600XT 8GB and flash that (using a PC) so that it is compatible with the 5,1 Mac Pro. You will need MacOS Monterey however.
Seems like there a many RX 580 Sapphire Pulses available on ebay.

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MrScratchHook

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Looking at RX 580 Sapphire Pulse graphics cards for 2012 MacPro 5,1. Everything I read says this will work great, especially if am ok running this without the mac boot screen.

There is one detail I am wondering about. I see various pci versions on these cards. This macpro has pci 2.0 slots. Is it ok to run GPU with pci 3.0 connection? I read something pci backward compatiblity, so I think it will be ok.

Any information you can provide will be much appreciated.
you can also get the saffire pulse rx 570, its just about the same thing and a bit cheaper. i have both, i see no difference
 
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A few years ago I sold my new RX 580 Pulse ... and then realised I needed one afterall. So I bought one again - and it cost me more! A fair bit more!! They are cheap as now though ... I should have waited ... except that I did need one.

They were popular for bitcoin work, and the rule back then was avoid an ex bitcoin one. Good luck.
 
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danallen

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Turns out, there is a significant complication in my situation. A few months ago I sprung for a very awesome Samsung LU32R591CWNXZA 32" 4k UHD Curved Monitor. This monitor has great color, the curve ,makes a big difference for my old eyes. I do programming and general web/video viewing not gaming.

That catch is that Samsung monitor has no sync (Adaptive Sync, FreeSync, and G-Sync). I had no idea that would matter. This monitor wants to run at 60Hz. The RX 580 has HDMI 1.2 (which runs at 30Hz and Display Port ( I forgot the version), that runs 60 HZ EXCEPT SURPRISE!, Catalina does not support display port. I did not that would be possible but my ignorance knows few bounds.

That leaves me with a monitor that runs flakey with my computer. Usually, the flashihng off disappears after 10-20 minutes, but not always. I think it depends on what I am running at the time.

As I understand it, the Available FIXES are:
1. Swallow hard and dedicate my curved 4k to my day job. I want that 4k on my mac but that is a not going to be too great unless I get a different monitor, with one or more of the syncs so it runs decent on hdmi 1.2
2. Upgrade from Catalina. I rely on this computer. it is long in the tooth, I should get a newer computer instead of risking surgery on the OS
3. Find my next computer.

Among those, the only relatively cheap easy one is suffering the humiliation of runnng my better monitor on my day job computer, which runs the curved Samsung no problem.

It is bad enough to crumble to my day job, but even worse, ,my job runs ..... the name of the system on my day job is sickening to think. Saying or typing it is against my spiritual beliefs. My system at work is called w-i-n-d-o-w-s. Example: windows gives no easy way to use a number like 123456789, because it turns it into 1.23X10^9. Windows has no functions for handling dates, except functions that don't work. My company created its own data type to run in oracle with date and time in one field. When we run into problems like that, we have retards who say MS Access will solve the problem

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giving my curved 4k to that scene is sinful.


finding a 4k monitor that works well with hdmi2. I have been running one like that for years, The reason I need two 4k monitors is to connect one to my laptop from work and ther other to my computer, which run side by side on my desk. I usually keep the 4k connect to my computer, but there are times when that is not that awesome for work to be running without a 2nd monitor.
 
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MarkC426

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I have never heard of a version of MacOS NOT supporting Display Port…..:oops:

I have always used DP from Snow Leopard through to Mojave on my cMP
And currently Ventura on my Studio.

It sounds like your problem may be related to OC (as Catalina is not officially supported).
 

MarkC426

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I don't think the member's monitor has a Display port.
I took it from this that they did…
”This monitor wants to run at 60Hz. The RX 580 has HDMI 1.2 (which runs at 30Hz and Display Port ( I forgot the version), that runs 60 HZ EXCEPT SURPRISE!, Catalina does not support display port.”

Maybe I misunderstood…🤔
That being said, the DP issue is still bizarre…:rolleyes:
 

MrScratchHook

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Turns out, there is a significant complication in my situation. A few months ago I sprung for a very awesome Samsung LU32R591CWNXZA 32" 4k UHD Curved Monitor. This monitor has great color, the curve ,makes a big difference for my old eyes. I do programming and general web/video viewing not gaming.

That catch is that Samsung monitor has no sync (Adaptive Sync, FreeSync, and G-Sync). I had no idea that would matter. This monitor wants to run at 60Hz. The RX 580 has HDMI 1.2 (which runs at 30Hz and Display Port ( I forgot the version), that runs 60 HZ EXCEPT SURPRISE!, Catalina does not support display port. I did not that would be possible but my ignorance knows few bounds.

That leaves me with a monitor that runs flakey with my computer. Usually, the flashihng off disappears after 10-20 minutes, but not always. I think it depends on what I am running at the time.

As I understand it, the Available FIXES are:
1. Swallow hard and dedicate my curved 4k to my day job. I want that 4k on my mac but that is a not going to be too great unless I get a different monitor, with one or more of the syncs so it runs decent on hdmi 1.2
2. Upgrade from Catalina. I rely on this computer. it is long in the tooth, I should get a newer computer instead of risking surgery on the OS
3. Find my next computer.

Among those, the only relatively cheap easy one is suffering the humiliation of runnng my better monitor on my day job computer, which runs the curved Samsung no problem.

It is bad enough to crumble to my day job, but even worse, ,my job runs ..... the name of the system on my day job is sickening to think. Saying or typing it is against my spiritual beliefs. My system at work is called w-i-n-d-o-w-s. Example: windows gives no easy way to use a number like 123456789, because it turns it into 1.23X10^9. Windows has no functions for handling dates, except functions that don't work. My company created its own data type to run in oracle with date and time in one field. When we run into problems like that, we have retards who say MS Access will solve the problem

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giving my curved 4k to that scene is sinful.


finding a 4k monitor that works well with hdmi2. I have been running one like that for years, The reason I need two 4k monitors is to connect one to my laptop from work and ther other to my computer, which run side by side on my desk. I usually keep the 4k connect to my computer, but there are times when that is not that awesome for work to be running without a 2nd monitor.
so your option is to upgrade macos... Quite simple. opencore.
 
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sfalatko

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A bit confused by this statement, you are currently running Catalina, which is not supported without Opencore.
There are a few ways to use Catalina on the cMP5,1 without OC - easiest is no_compat_check boot arg and I found the cleanest back in the day was to edit the platformsupport.plist to include the cMP5,1 board id and model number - though this is old news.
 
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sfalatko

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The 5,1 has an issue with its early CPUs, that prevent it properly running beyond Monterey.
And to be precise the cMP CPUs do not support AVX/AVX2 and later versions of macOS (Ventura +) require AVX/AVX2 in certain Kexts as well as certain applications require it. OCLP patches Ventura+ to include older Kexts so that the OS will run with AVX/AVX2. This patching can create instability depending on your workflow/applications.

Hence many with the cMP stay at Monterey.
 
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