Safari 15-no pinned tabs in tab groups!?!

[Jdhommert]

While Safari does seem better, as a pure tab whore I'm loving tab groups right away in my 30 mins of use last night...but there was some struggles.

I see pinned tabs are done differently, ok cool.
I was trying to figure out why I couldnt view pinned tabs all of the sudden and closed/reopened Safari. When I reopened it it opened EVERY SINGLE favorite/bookmark I've ever saved. It opened 94 tabs at once...but at least 5 of those were my pinned tabs lol...because it wasnt in a tab group.

Anyway, come to find out that not only can you not customize pinned tabs in each tab group....you literally cant have ANY pinned tabs in any tab group. You have to be kidding me right? The point of pinned tabs are for tabs you use all the time and want to always be able to access quickly. I'm assuming there's no way around this and I'm not just an idiot who cant figure it out. I read someone else commenting on here saying the same thing and not happy about it, so I assume that this is just the way it is

Were they ever available in any of the betas? I have to assume this is an oversight or something they think is the right thing to do and will add the ability soon.......right?


*thinks of still not having a calculator app on the iPad in late 2021....*




......RIGHT?!?!???

 

[GlenK]

I just figured it out too. I loved the groups thing too but really like some pinned tabs. I'll go back to the old fashioned way of having all my tabs in a folders on the bookmark menu. Then if I ever lose them can just reopen them from there.

Just set it up and it works. Pinned tabs as usual opening them from a Bookmarks folder.

 

[Jdhommert]

I just figured it out too. I loved the groups thing too but really like some pinned tabs. I'll go back to the old fashioned way of having all my tabs in a folders on the bookmark menu. Then if I ever lose them can just reopen them from there.

Just set it up and it works. Pinned tabs as usual opening them from a Bookmarks folder.

I guess that is one way to do it.

Only problem with that is, I want my pinned tabs to not take up tab real estate. I have 5 or so I normally have pinned. So if I have them open the entire time, adding tabs on top of that is too much to keep tabs at a reasonable size.

I guess I could make a tab group of tabs I normally have pinned.

Just a pain that shouldn't be a pain...

 

[Fredd-E]

Glad I'm not the only one. We like totally lost the ability to use pinned tabs. Sucks!

 

[Jdhommert]

I’ve been having amother issue too occasionally

when I go to click on a link or type something sometimes it loads that link for a split second, then refreshes the page I was trying to leave. I was Trying to google something and ended up having to go to google.com and search it that way

 

[appleone2]

From what I can tell, Apple probably considers Tab Groups and Pinned Tabs similar features since both technically allow you to persist tabs between launches and different windows. Therefore, Safari seems to only let you use one or the other. I can only pin tabs when I'm not in a Tab Group.

PS: For anyone struggling to use pin tabs by dragging them to the left when a "Compact" Tab layout, I found that you can pin tabs using Window > Pin Tab.

 

[vincegreco]

While Safari does seem better, as a pure tab whore I'm loving tab groups right away in my 30 mins of use last night...but there was some struggles.

I see pinned tabs are done differently, ok cool.
I was trying to figure out why I couldnt view pinned tabs all of the sudden and closed/reopened Safari. When I reopened it it opened EVERY SINGLE favorite/bookmark I've ever saved. It opened 94 tabs at once...but at least 5 of those were my pinned tabs lol...because it wasnt in a tab group.

Anyway, come to find out that not only can you not customize pinned tabs in each tab group....you literally cant have ANY pinned tabs in any tab group. You have to be kidding me right? The point of pinned tabs are for tabs you use all the time and want to always be able to access quickly. I'm assuming there's no way around this and I'm not just an idiot who cant figure it out. I read someone else commenting on here saying the same thing and not happy about it, so I assume that this is just the way it is

Were they ever available in any of the betas? I have to assume this is an oversight or something they think is the right thing to do and will add the ability soon.......right?


*thinks of still not having a calculator app on the iPad in late 2021....*




......RIGHT?!?!???

can't save all tabs-including pinned ones

 

[romanof]

There is more than just tabs with defugalities in the latest Safari. For a while, I thought that Amazon was having problems, but realized that the same weird actions were happening on other mainline sites. Like putting multiples of one item in the cart - one every time I click the back arrow. And a bank statement that was miles long, even though I am not quite a zillionaire - the same page over and over as if I was clicking on something. And other strangeness at other sites.

Moved over to try Firefox and no problems. Then to check if my Safari load in the Mini was the problem, tried it on my Air and while I didn't get quite the same weirdness, I got other wacko stuff.

Safari has been rock solid for ages. Hope someone out west notices what they have put out.

 

[Hlusta]

So I'm not the only one . The default group (I don't know how to call it...) has pinned tabs, others do not.
Also CMD+Shift+T does not seem to work at all. Hopefully some fix will come up soon.

 

[Hotel62November]

Ugh ... just wanted to chime in on this too.

I get that pinned tabs and tab groups are somewhat similar features, but the problem with tab groups is that you can inadvertently navigate to another page and lose one of the saved tab. Say I have a tab group to quickly access 3 work applications ... if I open a link in outlook in might replace one of the tabs in my tab group which defeats the purpose of the tab groups. The next time I go back to my group it brings me back to that random page ...

It would be great if the tab groups could be set to "read only" ... anytime you go back to one it loads the preset pages regardless of tabs you had open in your last session on that tab.