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BlueberryMac

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For some reason, in the last couple of days, command-option-F no longer works to start a search in Safari on my Mac running Ventura; if I press the key combination in Safari, nothing happens.

I realize that I use that command all the time (!) and want to find a way to get it working again.

Is there a general Safari pref file I can delete to get the standard functionality back?

Anyone else run into this problem? Any ideas?
 

chabig

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If you open the Edit menu and hover over Find, you will see all of the available search shortcuts. Cmd-opt-F is for starting a web search. For me, DuckDuckGo is my search preference. Yours might be different. Check your Safari settings to see what you're using. Maybe you can reselect it.

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BlueberryMac

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If you open the Edit menu and hover over Find, you will see all of the available search shortcuts. Cmd-opt-F is for starting a web search. For me, DuckDuckGo is my search preference. Yours might be different. Check your Safari settings to see what you're using. Maybe you can reselect it.

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Weird!

If I select the action via the Edit > Find menus, it does work, but it just doesn't do anything when I press the actual key combination. I even tried changing to a different search engine option and it didn't work for those either. It just worked a couple of days ago!

I thought maybe when I installed the Consent-o-Matic Safari extension a couple of days ago, maybe that is what borked it, but I just uninstalled that, restarted Safari, and there's no change.
 

chabig

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Did you set cmd-opt-F to do something else in the keyboard shortcut settings? Have you tried logging out and back in? Rebooting?
 

BlueberryMac

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Did you set cmd-opt-F to do something else in the keyboard shortcut settings? Have you tried logging out and back in? Rebooting?
I've re-booted and I ran ONYX, which also requires a re-boot. No change.
 

BlueberryMac

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command-F doesn't work? it's always worked here (& still does)...
Command-F is for searching for text within a page,

Command-Option-F takes a user to the URL field window to enter text,
the URL field in Safari, working as a text field for a Google (or other search engine) search.

So, if you're on any webpage in Safari and want to search Google for something,
you just hit Command-Option-F,
type the search terms [ex: ted lasso all episode names], and hit return.
 

fisherking

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Command-F is for searching for text within a page,

Command-Option-F takes a user to the URL field window to enter text,
the URL field in Safari, working as a text field for a Google (or other search engine) search.

So, if you're on any webpage in Safari and want to search Google for something,
you just hit Command-Option-F,
type the search terms [ex: ted lasso all episode names], and hit return.
ah.... got it. this used to work? it doesn't here currently...
 

BlueberryMac

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you can use the accessibility keyboard to check wether the hardware key is working - it should show you wether hardware keys you press are registered.

What Mac/keyboard model (cable, bluetooth, ..)?
I turned it on, and yeah, the key presses are shown—so something (either bad prefs, or maybe a glitching Safari extension) must be interfering with that signal being "seen" by Safari...
 

BlueberryMac

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I turned it on, and yeah, the key presses are shown—so something (either bad prefs, or maybe a glitching Safari extension) must be interfering with that signal being "seen" by Safari...
SOLVED IT!—it was a recently installed Safari extension; I turned it off, and without even quitting Safari, Command-Option-F worked again! Yay!

I'm contacting the developer so they know of the problem.
 
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BlueberryMac

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SOLVED IT!—it was a recently installed Safari extension; I turned it off, and without even quitting Safari, Command-Option-F worked again! Yay!

I'm contacting the developer so they know of the problem.
Just a followup, I heard back from the developer of the Safari extension, and he's going to try to work a fix into a new version that should release in next few days.
 

Feek

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Out of interest, what's the difference between cmd-opt-f and cmd-L? They both seem to do the same in that they take you to the address bar where you can type in a search.
 
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BlueberryMac

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Out of interest, what's the difference between cmd-opt-f and cmd-L? They both seem to do the same in that they take you to the address bar where you can type in a search.
I think Command-L may do the same thing, but Command-Option-F is so ingrained idea-wise:

Command-F to find-in-the-page, and
Command-Option-F to find-on-the-internet...
 
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