Sale period for late 2011 13" MBP (with optical drive)

[Philotech]

To fix a broken ebay transaction, I would need to know until when exactly the late 2011 13" MacBook Pro was sold (see official specs here: https://support.apple.com/kb/SP645?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US).
It's because I have been sold a "MacBook Pro 13" (2015)" and doubt this can be a 2011 model sold as new at that time.

 

[Capt T]

Does it have the optical drive? 2011 was the last version that had them. 2012 versions removed the optical drives.

 

[Philotech]

Yes it does (should have repeated it in the main text; it's in the subject). That's why I assume (for the benefit of doubt) that it's the 2011 model.
Do you have an idea when Apple stopped selling it?

 

[protoxx]

http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...4-13-late-2011-unibody-thunderbolt-specs.html
Introduction Date: October 24, 2011 Discontinued Date: June 11, 2012

 

[alex.houston]

See top of the tables on following pages for introduction and discontinued dates.
2011 models (discontinued in 2012):
http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...4-13-late-2011-unibody-thunderbolt-specs.html
http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...8-13-late-2011-unibody-thunderbolt-specs.html
The model that was actually sold until recently was one of the 2012 models:
http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...re-i5-2.5-13-mid-2012-unibody-usb3-specs.html (discontinued 2016)
http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...re-i7-2.9-13-mid-2012-unibody-usb3-specs.html (discontinued 2013)
So, the model you bought should not be 2011 model, it should be 2012 model.

 

[Philotech]

See top of the tables on following pages for introduction and discontinued dates.
...
The model that was actually sold until recently was one of the 2012 models:
http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...re-i5-2.5-13-mid-2012-unibody-usb3-specs.html (discontinued 2016)
http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...re-i7-2.9-13-mid-2012-unibody-usb3-specs.html (discontinued 2013)
So, the model you bought should not be 2011 model, it should be 2012 model.

Thanks. Too bad. Would have been easier to argue if it had no longer been for sale in 2015.

 

[alex.houston]

Thanks. Too bad. Would have been easier to argue if it had no longer been for sale in 2015.

Even if it was sold by Apple in 2015, the correct way to call it would be "Macbook Pro 13" (Mid 2012)", and definitely not "Macbook Pro 13" (2015)". The year always indicates model year, not when it was sold by Apple. You could argue it was "not as described" with eBay.

 

[Philotech]

Even if it was sold by Apple in 2015, the correct way to call it would be "Macbook Pro 13" (Mid 2012)", and definitely not "Macbook Pro 13" (2015)". The year always indicates model year, not when it was sold by Apple. You could argue it was "not as described" with eBay.

Yes, definitely thinking about this. Right now I've offered that the seller should check with other bidders if they will buy it, and then to reverse the transaction. The additional postage and lower bid should be negligible. But I have doubts that this will work...

 

[alex.houston]

If you already received the Macbook, you can double-check the model year by going to: apple logo > about this mac. If you do not want to turn it on and setup account, you can also check by serial number (it's written on the bottom of the laptop) on the website https://checkcoverage.apple.com
I wouldn't wait too long to start return on ebay, maybe a week. You must do it while it's within 30 days of delivery, see http://pages.ebay.com/ebay-money-back-guarantee/
Good luck.

 

[gooser]

Even if it was sold by Apple in 2015, the correct way to call it would be "Macbook Pro 13" (Mid 2012)", and definitely not "Macbook Pro 13" (2015)". The year always indicates model year, not when it was sold by Apple. You could argue it was "not as described" with eBay.

i would be surprised if you got very far with this argument.

 

[alex.houston]

i would be surprised if you got very far with this argument.

It depends on the whole eBay listing. My guess is that, if the seller called it "Macbook Pro 13" (2015)", he probably also messed up other details, e.g. part number or screen resolution. The more inconsistencies Philotech (the OP) finds, the better his case.

 

[Philotech]

If you already received the Macbook, you can double-check the model year by going to: apple logo > about this mac. If you do not want to turn it on and setup account, you can also check by serial number (it's written on the bottom of the laptop) on the website https://checkcoverage.apple.com
I wouldn't wait too long to start return on ebay, maybe a week. You must do it while it's within 30 days of delivery, see http://pages.ebay.com/ebay-money-back-guarantee/
Good luck.

Thanks for the link to checkcoverage. I have confirmed is a mid-2012 MBP.
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It depends on the whole eBay listing. My guess is that, if the seller called it "Macbook Pro 13" (2015)", he probably also messed up other details, e.g. part number or screen resolution. The more inconsistencies Philotech (the OP) finds, the better his case.

No, it's just this, and the ebay-created enty in the Item Specifics "Release Year: 2015" which I believe is the only actual proven wrong information. The "(2015)" in the headline is just contrary to common habit I am afraid.
All other details are only on a really bad photo of the spec sheet on the original packaging which you can see when clicking through the provided photos.

 

[alex.houston]

Thanks for the link to checkcoverage. I have confirmed is a mid-2012 MBP.
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No, it's just this, and the ebay-created enty in the Item Specifics "Release Year: 2015" which I believe is the only actual proven wrong information. The "(2015)" in the headline is just contrary to common habit I am afraid.
All other details are only on a really bad photo of the spec sheet on the original packaging which you can see when clicking through the provided photos.

Those two errors should be enough for eBay return as "item not as described". The "(2015)" in the headline definitely implies that the model year is 2015, which you have found it is not.
You should still turn the laptop on, create account (skip signing in to icloud, you'll be returning it anyway), and check other specifics (hard drive size, memory). You might be able to find more errors. E.g. if the item is sold in "used" condition, then the item must be in working condition. If it crashes or if it doesn't start up or if it has a bad pixel or anything else not working, again it means it's "not as described".

 

[Philotech]

Those two errors should be enough for eBay return as "item not as described". The "(2015)" in the headline definitely implies that the model year is 2015, which you have found it is not.
You should still turn the laptop on, create account (skip signing in to icloud, you'll be returning it anyway), and check other specifics (hard drive size, memory). You might be able to find more errors. E.g. if the item is sold in "used" condition, then the item must be in working condition. If it crashes or if it doesn't start up or if it has a bad pixel or anything else not working, again it means it's "not as described".

The rest is fine. The specs are listed only by way of a photo, and it was sold as used of course. I would assume everything is in working order as the machine is, technically, just a year old (allegedly, I don't have it yet).