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iPhone 16 ProMax/256GB/Desert Titanium
 

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creediddy

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No just trying to squeeze as much processing power on the A18P chip. I didn’t think it was capable of hitting over 9100. The one thing to keep in mind is that the first 24 hours the phone is doing background processing. I was hitting consistently 8100-8300. The key to keep the processor is cold as possible to get the scores over 9k.
 
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No just trying to squeeze as much processing power on the A18P chip. I didn’t think it was capable of hitting over 9100. The one thing to keep in mind is that the first 24 hours the phone is doing background processing. I was hitting consistently 8100-8300. The key to keep the processor is cold as possible to get the scores over 9k.

I never understood why people take value in some score that has no real world meaning. I could say my iPhone 14 got 12 gazillion on the silly slinky benchmark version 38.7. These scores are just meaningless numbers. Don’t get me wrong, I was one of those that benchmarked my PC and then was excited when it got some high score. I think these benchmarks are funded by hardware manufacturers so that way you’ll buy the latest and greatest GPU/ CPU to try to get the highest benchmark even though you’re not using the GPU you have now.

Don’t get me wrong I like it when people benchmark hardware in the sense they are showing hardware completing actual work. One showing X version of the device completed this work in 2 min 45 sec versus the new updated Y version completed the task in 2 min 15 sec. That is something I could use to make a decision and it’s a meaningful number.

I would like to see actual comparison of tasks people do on the new iPhone comparing them to previous iPhones. This would help people make a choice of upgrading because what is this new iPhone 16 PM going to do better or faster than my iPhone 14 PM?
 

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I never understood why people take value in some score that has no real world meaning. I could say my iPhone 14 got 12 gazillion on the silly slinky benchmark version 38.7. These scores are just meaningless numbers. Don’t get me wrong, I was one of those that benchmarked my PC and then was excited when it got some high score. I think these benchmarks are funded by hardware manufacturers so that way you’ll buy the latest and greatest GPU/ CPU to try to get the highest benchmark even though you’re not using the GPU you have now.

Don’t get me wrong I like it when people benchmark hardware in the sense they are showing hardware completing actual work. One showing X version of the device completed this work in 2 min 45 sec versus the new updated Y version completed the task in 2 min 15 sec. That is something I could use to make a decision and it’s a meaningful number.

I would like to see actual comparison of tasks people do on the new iPhone comparing them to previous iPhones. This would help people make a choice of upgrading because what is this new iPhone 16 PM going to do better or faster than my iPhone 14 PM?
I agree. I like watching the "real world" speed tests some on select YouTube channels that show the devices doing workloads. Benchmark scores are like dyno horsepower readings, high numbers don't always translate to quicker times or crossing the quarter mile lights first. Sometimes real world use shows little difference in performance in day to day use.
 

creediddy

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I never understood why people take value in some score that has no real world meaning. I could say my iPhone 14 got 12 gazillion on the silly slinky benchmark version 38.7. These scores are just meaningless numbers. Don’t get me wrong, I was one of those that benchmarked my PC and then was excited when it got some high score. I think these benchmarks are funded by hardware manufacturers so that way you’ll buy the latest and greatest GPU/ CPU to try to get the highest benchmark even though you’re not using the GPU you have now.

Don’t get me wrong I like it when people benchmark hardware in the sense they are showing hardware completing actual work. One showing X version of the device completed this work in 2 min 45 sec versus the new updated Y version completed the task in 2 min 15 sec. That is something I could use to make a decision and it’s a meaningful number.

I would like to see actual comparison of tasks people do on the new iPhone comparing them to previous iPhones. This would help people make a choice of upgrading because what is this new iPhone 16 PM going to do better or faster than my iPhone 14 PM?
To Apple Intelligence what you wrote…the 16PM is snappier and breezes through tasks faster than my previous 14PM. WiFi speeds are better. I get gigabit speeds of 1.2Gbps DL speeds. My 14PM got as high as 700Mbps. Super lighting charging speeds. The neural engine alone screams super fast and I can ask Siri back to back questions much faster. Is it worth the upgrade? For a trade-in of $1000 over 36 months and a $5 month credit on my account every month, yes it’s worth the upgrade.

You are taking my GB6 scores out one context. The A18P chip is capable of 9100 multi scores. Everyone else is getting 8100-8500. Just giving you readings. My 14PM score was 2618/6569. Nearly 40% difference in performance. If you have 15PM no need to upgrade.
 

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Doesn't hurt to see the scores... Hope to see more... Maybe there's a chip lottery lol
I appreciate it! I want to see someone achieve 10k on this chip if possible! Nothing to prove but Apple can place M-series chips in these phones with vapor chamber cooling. It’s not necessary for the speed of faster chips, but it’s cool to see the performance increases over time.
 

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I have fun benchmarking my pc and iOS devices at time too so no hate here. Here’s my 14pro record for reference
 

creediddy

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View attachment 2427471 I have fun benchmarking my pc and iOS devices at time too so no hate here. Here’s my 14pro record for reference
Nice! Cracked 7000 on a A16. Very cool! Do me a favor. Retest and turn down brightness to 0 and place unit in freezer as you might squeeze out another 100 points.
 
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gabeomatic

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Hehe my method is quite similar so I was happy enough to crack 7k on bloated 18.1

Attaching some bonus tests from my m4/16gb ram 1TB 13 inch iPad, although I didn’t run many tests before I sold it to downgrade.
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I never understood why people take value in some score that has no real world meaning. I could say my iPhone 14 got 12 gazillion on the silly slinky benchmark version 38.7. These scores are just meaningless numbers. Don’t get me wrong, I was one of those that benchmarked my PC and then was excited when it got some high score. I think these benchmarks are funded by hardware manufacturers so that way you’ll buy the latest and greatest GPU/ CPU to try to get the highest benchmark even though you’re not using the GPU you have now.

Don’t get me wrong I like it when people benchmark hardware in the sense they are showing hardware completing actual work. One showing X version of the device completed this work in 2 min 45 sec versus the new updated Y version completed the task in 2 min 15 sec. That is something I could use to make a decision and it’s a meaningful number.

I would like to see actual comparison of tasks people do on the new iPhone comparing them to previous iPhones. This would help people make a choice of upgrading because what is this new iPhone 16 PM going to do better or faster than my iPhone 14 PM?
Geekbench 6 performs tests on the SoC so that people have a benchmark to work with, and measure Performance to see if there are improvements from the previous Gen. So how can you say these are meaningless numbers and have no real world meaning?
 
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To Apple Intelligence what you wrote…the 16PM is snappier and breezes through tasks faster than my previous 14PM.
That’s very subjective because breezing through tasks sounds like an advertisement rather than something concrete. Saying the music app opens a half second faster would be more understandable.

WiFi speeds are better. I get gigabit speeds of 1.2Gbps DL speeds. My 14PM got as high as 700Mbps.
Most people don’t have gigabit Internet, so this isn’t important unless you have that. Even then I can see very few tasks where 700 versus 1200 would be a significant difference. It is a measurable upgrade though, so I can understand that.

Super lighting charging speeds.
This is important for some people. Super lightning isn’t exactly a measurement but I suspect there are measurements showing it’s faster so that’s an upgrade.

The neural engine alone screams super fast and I can ask Siri back to back questions much faster.
So I can get a useless answer faster. I rarely use Siri unless it’s for something very simple like setting a timer, an alarm or rarely calling someone. If it’s trying to ask, question, it usually fails.. even something as simple as asking an addition problem can be impossible for it if it’s not worded in a certain way. I could do the same exact thing with Google and have no problems. I don’t like the privacy issues with Google, but it’s significantly better. Hopefully this AI edition to Siri helps, but we’ll see.

Is it worth the upgrade? For a trade-in of $1000 over 36 months and a $5 month credit on my account every month, yes it’s worth the upgrade.
Yes, but this locks you into that phone for 36 months. That means if you want to get the full $1000 you can’t upgrade till the iPhone 19. at least that’s my understanding of most of these rebate plans.

Geekbench 6 performs tests on the SoC so that people have a benchmark to work with, and measure Performance to see if there are improvements from the previous Gen. So how can you say these are meaningless numbers and have no real world meaning?
Because the numbers don’t tell me what is different about what I’m doing on my iPhone. How does an extra 2000 on geekbench translate to me replying to this post on my iPhone? When I’m opening up my Chase app to check my account balance is something different going to happen? Is it going to load significantly faster and if so, how much faster? For example, if you said the app would load 1/2 second faster than I could understand that because it’s telling me something I’m doing with my phone and how it’s improved. Maybe I feel the Chase app loads too slowly on my phone so it’s worth it for me to spend that extra money on the upgrade. Those numbers don’t tell me this because even though it might show 40% higher on a number, that doesn’t necessarily translate to 40% faster on everything.
 
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creediddy

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That’s very subjective because breezing through tasks sounds like an advertisement rather than something concrete. Saying the music app opens a half second faster would be more understandable.


Most people don’t have gigabit Internet, so this isn’t important unless you have that. Even then I can see very few tasks where 700 versus 1200 would be a significant difference. It is a measurable upgrade though, so I can understand that.


This is important for some people. Super lightning isn’t exactly a measurement but I suspect there are measurements showing it’s faster so that’s an upgrade.


So I can get a useless answer faster. I rarely use Siri unless it’s for something very simple like setting a timer, an alarm or rarely calling someone. If it’s trying to ask, question, it usually fails.. even something as simple as asking an addition problem can be impossible for it if it’s not worded in a certain way. I could do the same exact thing with Google and have no problems. I don’t like the privacy issues with Google, but it’s significantly better. Hopefully this AI edition to Siri helps, but we’ll see.


Yes, but this locks you into that phone for 36 months. That means if you want to get the full $1000 you can’t upgrade till the iPhone 19. at least that’s my understanding of most of these rebate plans.


Because the numbers don’t tell me what is different about what I’m doing on my iPhone. How does an extra 2000 on geekbench translate to me replying to this post on my iPhone? When I’m opening up my Chase app to check my account balance is something different going to happen? Is it going to load significantly faster and if so, how much faster? For example, if you said the app would load 1/2 second faster than I could understand that because it’s telling me something I’m doing with my phone and how it’s improved. Maybe I feel the Chase app loads too slowly on my phone so it’s worth it for me to spend that extra money on the upgrade. Those numbers don’t tell me this because even though it might show 40% higher on a number, that doesn’t necessarily translate to 40% faster on everything.
Russell. My intent of the post are giving reasons of why I upgraded. Simply they are readings from GB to show the potential of the phone’s capabilities and its performance. Why do you find fault in benchmarks? Upgrading is a choice and an option. It’s ok that you don’t want to upgrade and you are justifying your 14 ProMax purchase. You have all the reason to explain yourself this way. I’m enjoying what I have and I will continue to report my findings to people who care.
 

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Russell. My intent of the post are giving reasons of why I upgraded. Simply they are readings from GB to show the potential of the phone’s capabilities and its performance. Why do you find fault in benchmarks? Upgrading is a choice and an option. It’s ok that you don’t want to upgrade and you are justifying your 14 ProMax purchase. You have all the reason to explain yourself this way. I’m enjoying what I have and I will continue to report my findings to people who care.
Creediddy, I don’t think I said anything about your reasons for upgrading. I don’t think you have to justify your purchase to me. I’m not trying to justify my 14 Pro Max purchase to you. I didn’t think that is necessary.

Perhaps you misunderstood my posts. All I was saying is benchmark numbers do not convey what the average user is going to experience. for that benchmarks showing results of daily tasks seem better for me. I’ve seen YouTube channels showing them opening different applications or what not.

If numbers on a benchmark make you happy then please be happy. Not everyone wants the same thing so what makes me happy with my iPhone might not make you happy. We have different wants and needs. It would be boring if everyone wanted the same phone 🙂
 
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creediddy

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Geekbench 6 performs tests on the SoC so that people have a benchmark to work with, and measure Performance to see if there are improvements from the previous Gen. So how can you say these are meaningless numbers and have no real world meaning?
Thank you snipr!
 
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