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shmerls

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Hi. I have a mid 2012 Mac Pro that I leave on 24/7 and need to increase the size of my main drive (Seagate Baracuda 1.5 TB, 1.25 TB full) and have been thinking of either a Seagate Enterprise NAS HDD 3TB or Seagate (non-Enterprise) NAS HDD 3 TB.

I got into thinking about this level of drive because I had a main drive failure (Seagate Baracuda 1.5 TB) and one of Seagate's Tech reps helped me and was just amazing and warranty replaced it with a Seagate Enterprise NAS HDD 4TB, which will be my Time Machine drive.

So the decisions are: do I go with the Enterprise for approx. $100 more or the non-Enterprise. And then since I'm at 1.25 TB full on my 1.5 TB am I being penny foolish getting a 3TB replacement and should I buy a 4TB. I will need two of whatever I get because I put a mirror drive in Bay 2 and then do a mirror backup to it. So two 4 TB Enterprise drives is a chunk of change. Why Enterprise, for one thing the 5 yr warranty vs 3 yrs with the non Ent. And from what Seagate says, the Enterprise are just that much more solid. Coming from years of using Baracudas, the NAS HDD is a huge jump ahead, I know.

Usage: I'm slowing down in my accumulation of programs and data so I don't expect to *need* the extra larger drive because I'm gonna fill it up fast. And a 3TB will at least start me off at 50% full.

Of course some of you who really know what you're talking about may not like the Seagate line and point me in an entirely different direction any way. I can't wait to see your replies. Thanks everyone.
 

AidenShaw

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Hi. I have a mid 2012 Mac Pro that I leave on 24/7 and need to increase the size of my main drive (Seagate Baracuda 1.5 TB, 1.25 TB full) and have been thinking of either a Seagate Enterprise NAS HDD 3TB or Seagate (non-Enterprise) NAS HDD 3 TB.

I got into thinking about this level of drive because I had a main drive failure (Seagate Baracuda 1.5 TB) and one of Seagate's Tech reps helped me and was just amazing and warranty replaced it with a Seagate Enterprise NAS HDD 4TB, which will be my Time Machine drive.

So the decisions are: do I go with the Enterprise for approx. $100 more or the non-Enterprise. And then since I'm at 1.25 TB full on my 1.5 TB am I being penny foolish getting a 3TB replacement and should I buy a 4TB. I will need two of whatever I get because I put a mirror drive in Bay 2 and then do a mirror backup to it. So two 4 TB Enterprise drives is a chunk of change. Why Enterprise, for one thing the 5 yr warranty vs 3 yrs with the non Ent. And from what Seagate says, the Enterprise are just that much more solid. Coming from years of using Baracudas, the NAS HDD is a huge jump ahead, I know.

Usage: I'm slowing down in my accumulation of programs and data so I don't expect to *need* the extra larger drive because I'm gonna fill it up fast. And a 3TB will at least start me off at 50% full.

Of course some of you who really know what you're talking about may not like the Seagate line and point me in an entirely different direction any way. I can't wait to see your replies. Thanks everyone.
Look at the warranties, and how you use them. 5yr vs 3yr tells you a lot about Seagate's confidence in the drive.

Since you're not putting the drives into a hardware RAID or external multi-disk chassis, RAID and multi-drive issues don't come up. (If RAID or multi-drive, I'd say definitely enterprise.)

For your case, however, I'd go with the 4TB SSHD. $145 and 5 year warranty. http://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-22-178-379

No need for NAS for a single drive - no RAID error recovery issues. The SSHD can be noticeably faster, particularly for small random writes and bursts of creating lots of files. (Ignore the hype of "fast as an SSD, big as a spinner". That's only true for a few specific benchmarks.)
 

shmerls

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Apr 9, 2009
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white plains
Look at the warranties, and how you use them. 5yr vs 3yr tells you a lot about Seagate's confidence in the drive.

Since you're not putting the drives into a hardware RAID or external multi-disk chassis, RAID and multi-drive issues don't come up. (If RAID or multi-drive, I'd say definitely enterprise.)

For your case, however, I'd go with the 4TB SSHD. $145 and 5 year warranty. http://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-22-178-379

No need for NAS for a single drive - no RAID error recovery issues. The SSHD can be noticeably faster, particularly for small random writes and bursts of creating lots of files. (Ignore the hype of "fast as an SSD, big as a spinner". That's only true for a few specific benchmarks.)
Look at the warranties, and how you use them. 5yr vs 3yr tells you a lot about Seagate's confidence in the drive.

Since you're not putting the drives into a hardware RAID or external multi-disk chassis, RAID and multi-drive issues don't come up. (If RAID or multi-drive, I'd say definitely enterprise.)

For your case, however, I'd go with the 4TB SSHD. $145 and 5 year warranty. http://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-22-178-379

No need for NAS for a single drive - no RAID error recovery issues. The SSHD can be noticeably faster, particularly for small random writes and bursts of creating lots of files. (Ignore the hype of "fast as an SSD, big as a spinner". That's only true for a few specific benchmarks.)
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Good point about SSHD. You're correct that I'm not using RAID. I do have 4 drives in the Mac Pro tower and over the years, I've noticed better and worse vibrations collectively. For awhile, Seagate couldn't seem to make a 1 TB smooth drive and having 4 of them, I could hear the collective vibrations and I'm pretty sure lost my main drive early.

When the 1.5 TBs came out, I noticed they were MUCH quieter and smoother and lasted longer. They still carried a 5 year warranty.

So now that I can get a 5 year warranty drive that is built to run 24/7, I knee jerk reacted and was thinking if I can afford it, go with the Enterprise 3 or 4 TB drive. They will run smoother, quieter and last longer and give me 2 more years replacement if needed.

But the SSHD I will check later today and see how that compares to the Enterprise NAS HDD. I don't need the NAS you're totally correct. It just happens to come with the better drive but my 4 drives will be independent:

Bay 1 = main drive
Bay 2 = mirror backup of main drive
Bay 3 = older OSX for applications that we not continued to the current OS
Bay 4 = Time Machine

I'll let you know. Thank you kindly.
Steven
 

shmerls

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Original poster
Apr 9, 2009
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white plains
Look at the warranties, and how you use them. 5yr vs 3yr tells you a lot about Seagate's confidence in the drive.

Since you're not putting the drives into a hardware RAID or external multi-disk chassis, RAID and multi-drive issues don't come up. (If RAID or multi-drive, I'd say definitely enterprise.)

For your case, however, I'd go with the 4TB SSHD. $145 and 5 year warranty. http://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-22-178-379

No need for NAS for a single drive - no RAID error recovery issues. The SSHD can be noticeably faster, particularly for small random writes and bursts of creating lots of files. (Ignore the hype of "fast as an SSD, big as a spinner". That's only true for a few specific benchmarks.)

Sorry for the late reply. My back went out and it'd hard to do much else than they to dine fix for me first. But found a little time to read uUp on SSHD and you make a good point about not needing NAS.

The only questions I have then is if the SSHD is as quiet and heavy duty as the Enterprise drive and OK being left on 24/7? Do you know? I will call Seagate tomorrow, thanks, Steven
 
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