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Is the average Mac user really that far in the dark about their Mac that this article is showing secrets?!

I mean this stuff has been around for 20 years or so!

 
Is the average Mac user really that far in the dark about their Mac that this article is showing secrets?!

I mean this stuff has been around for 20 years or so!
To be fair, we're seeing another wave of "switchers" coming over with interest in Apple Silicon, so there's plenty of people that haven't been using this stuff for 20+ years like some of us dorks :p
 
My favorite Mac vlogger, Gary at Macmost.com, does a 5- to 7-minute post every weekday on different aspects on the Mac/iDevices. Even if its something as simple as "Copying/Pasting", I watch them daily, and have yet to not learn something new, every damn time.
And I've been using Macs since 2007.

EDIT: I bought my first iMac in '07, had a G3 Mac when they first came out, ~1999?
 
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My favorite Mac vlogger, Gary at Macmost.com, does a 5- to 7-minute post every weekday on different aspects on the Mac/iDevices. Even if its something as simple as "Copying/Pasting", I watch them daily, and have yet to not learn something new, every damn time.
And I've been using Macs since 2007.

EDIT: I bought my first iMac in '07, had a G3 Mac when they first came out, ~1999?
Every once in a while I'll watch one of those types of videos. My line of thinking while watching it goes something like "Hah, I've been using Macs for decades now, what can they possibly... Oh, huh, that's kinda cool. Wait really? Neat!"

One gets a bit set in their ways after a while and may miss new things that come along :)

That said, one of the first things I do when setting up a new Mac is to go into Keyboard Shortcuts and swap around Command-N and Command-Shift-N in the Finder. Command-N should make a new folder dammit! Like back in the days of yore!

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Every once in a while I'll watch one of those types of videos. My line of thinking while watching it goes something like "Hah, I've been using Macs for decades now, what can they possibly... Oh, huh, that's kinda cool. Wait really? Neat!"

One gets a bit set in their ways after a while and may miss new things that come along :)

That said, one of the first things I do when setting up a new Mac is to go into Keyboard Shortcuts and swap around Command-N and Command-Shift-N in the Finder. Command-N should make a new folder dammit! Like back in the days of yore!

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Where would you change this in Mojave?

I'm looking in Keyboard Shortcuts (System Preferences) but can't seem to find it.

Probably staring me in the face.
 
Where would you change this in Mojave?

I'm looking in Keyboard Shortcuts (System Preferences) but can't seem to find it.

Probably staring me in the face.
On the left, click on Application Shortcuts. Add a new one, select the Finder. This’ll allow you to redefine individual menu items by giving it the name of the menu item and the shortcut you’d like it to have. Just add entries for New Folder and New Finder Window.
 
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On the left, click on Application Shortcuts. Add a new one, select the Finder. This’ll allow you to redefine individual menu items by giving it the name of the menu item and the shortcut you’d like it to have. Just add entries for New Folder and New Finder Window.
Ah, okay. I was thinking you could just change them from a list. I seem to recall that being possible pre-Lion but I'm probably remembering wrong.

Thanks!
 
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Ah, okay. I was thinking you could just change them from a list. I seem to recall that being possible pre-Lion but I'm probably remembering wrong.

Thanks!
Cheers mate. Look at you, learning something new about using your Mac - I should make a tutorial video about this.

“ONLY 1337 H4X0RZ KNOW THIS ONE WEIRD MACOS TRICK DISCOVERED BY NASA TRAINED MILITARY SCIENTISTS. DOCTORS HATE HIM!!!!!”
 
Cheers mate. Look at you, learning something new about using your Mac - I should make a tutorial video about this.

“ONLY 1337 H4X0RZ KNOW THIS ONE WEIRD MACOS TRICK DISCOVERED BY NASA TRAINED MILITARY SCIENTISTS. DOCTORS HATE HIM!!!!!”
LOL!

I've added shortcuts before, I just assumed that there would be a list for already set Finder shortcuts. Didn't realize that adding it like that would override the factory set one.

I checked my G4 to see if they showed that way in Leopard and no they don't. Will have to check my G3 (Tiger) later.
 
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LOL!

I've added shortcuts before, I just assumed that there would be a list for already set Finder shortcuts. Didn't realize that adding it like that would override the factory set one.

I checked my G4 to see if they showed that way in Leopard and no they don't. Will have to check my G3 (Tiger) later.
If you're talking about the default shortcuts, nope, they changed those back in 10.0 when a "New Finder Window" became a thing. I used OS 8 and 9 for a few years before X, and to this day hitting Command+N in the Finder and not getting a new folder out of it feels wrong.

These are the defaults in Tiger, same as they've been since 10.0 changed them. My eMac has a pretty vanilla install of Tiger that I haven't bothered to do much with yet.
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If you're talking about the interface for adding a new shortcut, it's broadly similar in Tiger just without the left sidebar of categories.

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Is the average Mac user really that far in the dark about their Mac that this article is showing secrets?!

I mean this stuff has been around for 20 years or so!

Oh, sort of Mantra for each new generation of Mac users ...
"Mind your shoe laces, kiddo"
@eyoungren: we're about to become grandpas ... 🙃
 
Just think, we're not far off from the days of hearing "Yeah, well I've been using Macs since the Intel era so I've basically been at them forever!"
Or better yet: “I’ve just found my first Mac in the attic. I bought it in 2017, so what can I do with this ancient POS?”
 
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Is the average Mac user really that far in the dark about their Mac that this article is showing secrets?!

I mean this stuff has been around for 20 years or so!

Lots of newcomers to the Mac platform recently, lured in by the new Macs. They don’t know this stuff.
 
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Lots of newcomers to the Mac platform recently, lured in by the new Macs. They don’t know this stuff.
I guess not.

OTOH, not many Windows users know that Windows has an app switcher like the Mac. ALT+Tab instead of CMD+Tab.

🤷‍♂️
 
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I guess not.

OTOH, not many Windows users know that Windows has an app switcher like the Mac. ALT+Tab instead of CMD+Tab.

🤷‍♂️
I've used Windows devices as long, or maybe even longer than using Macs, and I find it so hard to believe that so many people do not know about Alt+Tab

I learned about alt-tabbing as soon as I had my first game crashed. If that doesn't work, then it's Ctrl+Alt+Del
 
I've used Windows devices as long, or maybe even longer than using Macs, and I find it so hard to believe that so many people do not know about Alt+Tab

I learned about alt-tabbing as soon as I had my first game crashed. If that doesn't work, then it's Ctrl+Alt+Del
I have always had to drag my wife forward concerning tech. Not so much now once she finally 'got' what it can do for her.

But it took a few years for her to stop treating Microsoft Word as a file system. I've shown her ALT+Tab, but it's not stuck yet.
 
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I have always had to drag my wife forward concerning tech. Not so much now once she finally 'got' what it can do for her.

But it took a few years for her to stop treating Microsoft Word as a file system. I've shown her ALT+Tab, but it's not stuck yet.
Good OS design would be to remind people that these handy stuff exists. You know, a small tips screen whenever system is busy with something, while you are waiting for something to load, or when it's unattended, etc.

But rarely anyone cares about "little things" anymore.
 
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Good OS design would be to remind people that these handy stuff exists. You know, a small tips screen whenever system is busy with something, while you are waiting for something to load, or when it's unattended, etc.
The problem with nagscreens is that they always come up at the wrong time. To me, there's nothing more annoying than a stupid "Did You Know ...?" pop-up coming up when I have more important things to worry about. I hate that crap. So if we're going to go down that route, please include an option to turn it off.
 
The problem with nagscreens is that they always come up at the wrong time. To me, there's nothing more annoying than a stupid "Did You Know ...?" pop-up coming up when I have more important things to worry about. I hate that crap. So if we're going to go down that route, please include an option to turn it off.
Option to turn it off is mandatory.

Who is the boss, your computer or you? Therefore...
 
One of the things I love about the design of OS X (especially in earlier versions) is how much functionality is hidden below the surface. For newcomers, it's simple and clean and unintimidating. But the more you use it, the more functionality you naturally uncover.

This is what all software should strive for.

Like, did everyone here know about ctrl+A and ctrl+E for moving your text cursor to the beginning and end of a line respectively? I'm sure many did given the audience of this forum, but I only discovered it a few years ago, and since then it has slowly begun to feel second nature.
 
Like, did everyone here know about ctrl+A and ctrl+E for moving your text cursor to the beginning and end of a line respectively? I'm sure many did given the audience of this forum, but I only discovered it a few years ago, and since then it has slowly begun to feel second nature.
I discovered that…today. :)

Thanks!
 
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