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BeautifulWoman_1984

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Hey guys,

I know this is a strange question so I'm sorry to be asking this it, but MacRumors has the most intelligent community I've ever visited so I thought it'd be best for me to ask here.

Is it possible for a newer iOS software update to make a device less secure?

For example, my friend asked me if he should upgrade his iPad Mini 2 from iOS 12 to the most recent iOS 12.4.7. He says that he hasn't any problems with his current iOS version on his iPad Mini 2 so he doesn't understand why he should upgrade to iOS 12.4.7. I'm not exactly sure which iOS 12 version he has but he said he updated it this year sometime so it must be iOS 12.3 or something newer. What should he do?

I trust Apple completely so I always try to keep my Apple devices up to date.

Thank you for any advice!
 
99% of a time security updates through iOS updates are a myth for 99% of people. Even old iOS versions are very secure for the average user. However, sometimes, yes, a newer version might address an issue that might have cropped up in the future.

IMO don't update iOS versions for security. Only update for features.
 
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99% of a time security updates through iOS updates are a myth for 99% of people. Even old iOS versions are very secure for the average user. However, sometimes, yes, a newer version might address an issue that might have cropped up in the future.

IMO don't update iOS versions for security. Only update for features.
Security updates are similar to preventive medicine. Prevention is taking steps to avoid something that you don't know will actually happen. Since we don't know the future, all we can do is try to anticipate potential events.

While there are occasionally egregious threats that may affect a high percentage of people, most threats (whether software bug or security flaw) affect a small percentage of users. So yes, maybe 99% (or 99.9999%) of users would not have been affected had the bug or flaw never been fixed. However, that doesn't mean the bug or flaw was not real to those who are/would have been affected. The problem is, we can't know whether we would have been part of the 99% or the 1% - we don't have time travel.

We humans tend to be very bad at assessing risk. We sometimes obsess about things that have incredibly low probabilities of happening, while happily doing things on a daily basis that carry far greater probability of harm. But whether low probability or high, it's still probability. Improbable things still happen - we do stupid, dangerous things and survive, and we can do all the right things and still come to harm. The question is whether we choose the improbable (betting our life's savings on a 100-to-1 long shot in a horse race), or we embrace the probable (betting on the 2-1 favorite). Either can be a losing bet or a winning bet, because probability is not the same thing as sure knowledge (using a time machine to find out which horse actually wins, then returning to the present to make the wager).

Now, to the original question. An interim update (moving from iOS 12.3 to iOS 12.4.7) is nearly always going to enhance security. While there are always exceptions (accidents do happen), the purpose of releasing interim updates is to fix things, not break them. Now, if your friend is interested, this Apple support article describes the changes made in each of iOS 12.x's releases: https://support.apple.com/HT209084

Since your friend would be jumping from 12.3 to 12.4.7 (skipping 12.3.1, 12.3.2, 12.4, 12.4.1, 12.4.2, 12.4.3, 12.4.4, 12.4.5, and 12.4.6), there's a fairly long list of accumulated items. 12.3.1 through 12.4.1 were released prior to the release of iOS 13, so they include some new features as well as bug fixes and security patches. However, 12.4.2 - 12.4.7 have been released after the introduction of iOS 13 - as is typical with Apple, those contain only security fixes.

That iPad Mini 2 cannot run iOS 13. At the moment, iOS 12.4.7 is the highest that iPad can go. I don't have a crystal ball, so I can't say whether it will be the last-ever update available for that iPad, but any future updates are also likely to be security fixes.

Your friend probably won't be hurt by doing nothing. Your friend probably won't be hurt by installing the update. However, even people who are highly skeptical of software updates consider security patches to be a no-brainer - incredibly low probability of harm, with the potential benefit of enhanced security.
 
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Thank you for your replies!

I like the idea of updates being like "preventive medicine" as I've never heard this phrase used before.

One thing that's still on my mind is this: Is it possible to install an update on the iPad and make it less secure than just doing nothing?
 
Can a security patch introduce a new security flaw? Anything is possible. However, the chances of that happening are very, very small.

So, do you do nothing to address a known risk because you're worried about creating a new, unknown risk?
 
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My big problem I'm trying to solve for my friend is this:

Will I be making my friend's iPad running iOS 12 less secure by updating to the newest patch?

I think this is an important question not only for my friend but for all iOS users in general so I hope I can get some more advice.


Thank you!
 
Will I be making my friend's iPad running iOS 12 less secure by updating to the newest patch?

Is it possible that an update will introduce a new unforseen issue? Sure it is.

But the risk there is small.

Consider this: what's more risky? A newly discovered flaw or a collection of exploits that have matured enough to be deployed by a swathe of bad actors?

There are many reasons not to upgrade, this however is not one of them.
 
Is it possible that an update will introduce a new unforseen issue? Sure it is.

But the risk there is small.

Consider this: what's more risky? A newly discovered flaw or a collection of exploits that have matured enough to be deployed by a swathe of bad actors?

There are many reasons not to upgrade, this however is not one of them.
Thank you!

Is there an official Apple release statement I can look at?

Any other advice would be much appreciated!
 
My big problem I'm trying to solve for my friend is this:

Will I be making my friend's iPad running iOS 12 less secure by updating to the newest patch?

I think this is an important question not only for my friend but for all iOS users in general so I hope I can get some more advice.


Thank you!

probably not, possibly, yes

there's one simple rule: besides Bitcoin, absolutely nothing is secure.
 
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Sorry guys I accidentally deleted my earlier post.

This is the post I made and I'd appreciate help with:


"Thank you for your replies Tiggrtoo and Apfelkuchen!

I've been wanting to ask this for a while but I've had to deal with so many other life problems that I've needed to set this task aside.

I haven't updated to the most recent version of iOS 12 for my friend which is iOS 12.4.8 as I've been worried that it may create new problems so I'm thinking of "it ain't broke don't fix it" as he says his iPad is running fine at the moment with an older version of iOS 12 and I'm not sure if I should update to iOS 12.4.8.

I'd hate for him to make his iPad less secure and less stable by updating to iOS 12.4.8.

Can anyone please confirm that iOS 12.4.8 is safe? 😓 😥😥

EDIT:

Made post easier to understand"
 
Just update to the latest iOS possible if you’re so worried. I honestly think it doesn’t matter.
 
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