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I have heard a few people say that I should be using a vpn on my iPad Pro since it is being used as my laptop replacement and is used on both cellular and WiFi. I have never used any virus protection on any of my Mac’s or iPhone‘s, wondering if I should be on iOS or iPadOS?
 
Meh I don’t bother with a VPN on cellular and even on some WiFi networks I don’t bother. Being smart and the fact it’s a walled garden I don’t bother. Sometimes on a free network I use a VPN and sometimes I don’t. I do use a VPN on a WiFi network on a bus which prohibits a lot of stuff from the App Store to YouTube. I get why for those things but some other things ?
 
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a VPN is a significant component of being online, read up on it (cactusvpn list 7 reasons why)

It’s not imo. For WiFi sure if you’re using public WiFi a lot but your own WiFi and cellular you can live without it. Do you “need” it ? No but it is a thing you should get depending on use cases.
 
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a VPN is a significant component of being online, read up on it for a basic understanding
This reply got my attention. Can you point to a site for further reading that is not a VPN marketing site? Please?
 
This reply got my attention. Can you point to a site for further reading that is not a VPN marketing site? Please?
Let the dialogue develop and consideration to the counterpoints to my statement. There are some capable individuals present. Add a basic understanding of a VPN and that should suffice.
 
Let the dialogue develop and consideration to the counterpoints to my statement. There are some capable individuals present. Add a basic understanding of a VPN and that should suffice.
So no, got it. I am aware of "what" a VPN is and how they work. I use one at work. You said it was a significant part of being online or some such and to read up. I was asking if you had further information to share regarding a site that was not selling a specific VPN, that might explain why it would "significant" that is what made me wonder what you getting at. Sounds like you don't.
 
So no, got it. I am aware of "what" a VPN is and how they work. I use one at work. You said it was a significant part of being online or some such and to read up. I was asking if you had further information to share regarding a site that was not selling a specific VPN, that might explain why it would "significant" that is what made me wonder what you getting at. Sounds like you don't.

There’s a certain amount of subjectivity on the significant part that’s why, with various views on what kinds of activity warrant more security.

I have VPN on my mobile devices, but I don’t run it all of the time. Others may choose to do so more than I.
 
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I have heard a few people say that I should be using a vpn on my iPad Pro since it is being used as my laptop replacement and is used on both cellular and WiFi. I have never used any virus protection on any of my Mac’s or iPhone‘s, wondering if I should be on iOS or iPadOS?

If you are on public wifi yes. I suppose even on cellular as well. If you are on your home wifi or someone you trust, then no.
 
I have heard a few people say that I should be using a vpn on my iPad Pro since it is being used as my laptop replacement and is used on both cellular and WiFi. I have never used any virus protection on any of my Mac’s or iPhone‘s, wondering if I should be on iOS or iPadOS?

The beauty of both Apple's Mac OSX and iOS is that it is a pretty secure operating system as long as it continues to receive updates on the OS. What the security updates do is patch up the security holes that those malware and viruses target upon, so there's nothing that can exploit the security holes. Most of what you see out there with compromised systems is that, they are running an older version of Windows, Mac OS, iOS, Android OS and Linux where the vulnerabilities of the older OS are exploited by the hackers. And this is also true for home routers -- all consumer routers you buy can be compromised by hackers and install malware in its firmware to compromise your security.

Having said that, there is a misconception about VPN. VPN DOES NOT prevent NOR STOP malware and virus infection on your computer. This is a common sales pitch sold by AVG, Bit Defender, Trend Micro, Norton etc... to instill fear on you and a false sense of security, because they include some sort of AI protection against these Malware stuff. But truly, it's just them phoning home to their database, cross reference them and prevent you from going to those websites. What a VPN truly does, however, is to mask your IP address, encrypt your traffic and mask your geolocation. In essence, people don't really know where you come from or you can bypass censorship in countries that stops the expression of free speech. The TOR site is a common free VPN community for investigative journalists, where coupled with an encrypted email service like ProtonMail can provide almost complete anonymity, if you decide to become a whistleblower. Most people who do this, however, run on an exclusive OS like TAILS for a complete anonymous presence.

The reason VPN does not stop malware and virus infection is because with VPN, you are still browsing websites that can potentially be a malware site. In order to infect your computer, you need to hand over your administration (or SUDO) account to these people and the way the iOS system works is that, there is a sandbox system (like app armor in Linux) that sandboxed any potential attacks and isolate them. Unless you give them your complete iTunes account, which then includes your credit card info, your likelyhood of infection with an iPad Pro is pretty pretty nill and non-permanent you can always reset and reboot your iPad Pro and the infection is gone.

Where VPN becomes useful for privacy protection is using public WIFI or fake public WIFI where people use them to steal your personal info through sites offering very weak encryption. At least with a VPN, your data and passwords are encrypted point to point for all the sites that don't offer strong https encryption. Keep in mind that public WIFI is a bigger threat and easier for people to steal your bank account. Cellular not so much as you know your provider. But with public WIFI, anyone with a hotspot router can mask and pretend to be Starbucks. You log into that hotspot and any personal data is then siphoned off to its own drive and they take your info to break into whatever sites you frequent with and then change passwords. Then they send you a ransom note demanding payment. Or else, divert legitimate http requests, change the DNS server to go to a fake site of the same website you thought you are in and you download some stuff and that stuff is infected with a virus. So in essence with a VPN, you can encrypt your data so that these thieves can't divert nor steal your data. Even public routers can be infected by malware and then they too send you to sites that are malicious and fake. With a VPN, you work with a VPN provider you trust and you are less likely to be diverted to malicious sites.

I use a VPN myself. In fact, I'm using now. It cuts down on cookie tracking and spams by a big margin and no site diversion in public hotspots.
 
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In my mind a VPN is more about privacy and in that way it offered a degree of security for such things as online banking. I use ExpressVPN on all my devices especially O/seas. It doesn't prevent tracking though and that is an important area of privacy to consider.
You should consider using a search engine like DuckDuck Go or a browser that has Ad Blocking and anti tracking built in like Brave, Cliqz or even the latest version of Firefox.
If you prefer Safari you might like to look at AdGuard - adblocker & privacy.
Remember Ads power the internet so customise the filters so you limit the adsvyou don't want.
 
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Of course, having a VPN is not necessary, but it's always better to have security online. If you don't want to use a VPN, you can try out using private browsers such as Tor or DuckDuckGo, but I would recommend using a VPN. I have been using Surfshark VPN myself (there are also other providers you can look into), and I found benefits not only in the data security but also for streaming, torrenting, saving money while traveling, etc. Maybe you should read more about what benefits a VPN can provide.
 
In my mind a VPN is more about privacy and in that way it offered a degree of security for such things as online banking. I use ExpressVPN on all my devices especially O/seas. It doesn't prevent tracking though and that is an important area of privacy to consider.
You should consider using a search engine like DuckDuck Go or a browser that has Ad Blocking and anti tracking built in like Brave, Cliqz or even the latest version of Firefox.
If you prefer Safari you might like to look at AdGuard - adblocker & privacy.
Remember Ads power the internet so customise the filters so you limit the adsvyou don't want.
What additional security do you get for online banking though using a vpn? All banks are going to be using tls encryption on your traffic to begin with. You might hide that you’re doing online banking, but you are not likely adding any protection to the data.

Assuming you visit sites thats are encrypted, a vpn is going to keep your isp or cell provider from harvesting and selling data on your browsing habits, potentially. You‘re also not trusting your vpn provider not to do that. I think they’re far from essential. doesn’t hurt as a just in case feature on public wifi, but 8 wouldn’t feel like its a must have.
 
In Indonesia where I live part of the year I use a VPN constantly because even if my bank site is encrypted my searches and general traffic is not. This also raises the question of bank site encryption. Banks and many other public organisations and institutions are constantly under cyber attack so I like to have all the protection I can get. There is also the regulated, monitored and censored content that is imposed within Indonesia and I prefer not to be flagged by some government site for attempting to access Reddit for example which is banned in Indonesia. Lastly setting my VPN to my home country ensures that I did not get “unrecognised activity” warnings or lockouts and all the media available to me at home is freely available wherever I am without any site logging.
 
However as stated this is about privacy as much as security and an Ad blocker and or anti tracking extension may be better as a foil to phishing, targeted advertising and malware.
 
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