Should I buy an old device to get starting at exploiting?

[R0gerBlack]

Hello.. I'd like to get started at iOS Exploiting. I'm reading Mac OS X and iOS Internals to the Apple's Core 1st edition book to get into exploiting. I'm still at the beginning, and as far as I read, I know that I'll need a jailbroken device to test out book's examples. I got 3 devices, an iPhone 4s on iOS 9.3, a 5s on iOS 9.3.2 and an iPad 3rd gen on iOS 9.0.2. Only iPad is jailbreakable.

The book though being the 1st edition, was written during 2011-2012, mostly talking about iOS 5 and sometimes quoting the 6 (which had to still come out during its writing).

To follow book's examples should I buy an old device like 3gs on iOS 5/6 or my iPad'd be fine? I'd like to learn exploiting and be able to find some times some nice exploits in iOS 9/10... Also I saw that this book is getting upgraded to 2nd edition, though I'd like to learn the basics of the 1st and try them in 1st person.

 

[dembu19]

yes

 

[R0gerBlack]

Which device you recommend me most to pay as less as possible? That may also be the first of a series of devices that I will buy for exploiting purposes..

 

[mikecwest]

Hello.. I'd like to get started at iOS Exploiting. I'm reading Mac OS X and iOS Internals to the Apple's Core 1st edition book to get into exploiting. I'm still at the beginning, and as far as I read, I know that I'll need a jailbroken device to test out book's examples. I got 3 devices, an iPhone 4s on iOS 9.3, a 5s on iOS 9.3.2 and an iPad 3rd gen on iOS 9.0.2. Only iPad is jailbreakable.

The book though being the 1st edition, was written during 2011-2012, mostly talking about iOS 5 and sometimes quoting the 6 (which had to still come out during its writing).

To follow book's examples should I buy an old device like 3gs on iOS 5/6 or my iPad'd be fine? I'd like to learn exploiting and be able to find some times some nice exploits in iOS 9/10... Also I saw that this book is getting upgraded to 2nd edition, though I'd like to learn the basics of the 1st and try them in 1st person.

Keep in mind a LOT has changed since IOS5, most notably with IOS 9 and the KPP. Previously, the kernel was patched, but in 9.0.2 and 9.1, the kernel was "raced."

Also keep in mind, *I* don't have the ability to do that stuff, and am certainly NOT an expert. I have read, that with KPP it is much much more difficult.
[doublepost=1466107703][/doublepost]Did you try iforgot.apple.com? My wife's phone got locked like that, and forgot her security answers. I called some phone number that it prompted with with. A very helpful person at Apple's Dallas call center walked me through, asked me questions, sent a text to my phone with a code, and also to my wife's iMac. She reset the password, and had me change the password and security questions while I was on the phone. It was a bit of a hassle, but did not require restoring the phone.

I also am not sure why she made it a point to inform me that she as at the Dallas call center...At least her job is still here in America.

 

[R0gerBlack]

Keep in mind a LOT has changed since IOS5, most notably with IOS 9 and the KPP. Previously, the kernel was patched, but in 9.0.2 and 9.1, the kernel was "raced."

Also keep in mind, *I* don't have the ability to do that stuff, and am certainly NOT an expert. I have read, that with KPP it is much much more difficult.

Yeah but to learn I have to go across the basics, don't I?

I hope that learning to exploit something on older iOSes where it was easier, will help me getting into it also in the newest ones, I mean, at least I'll know something.

Also I've seen numerous recent hackers that weren't on the scene in older iOSes. I think I'll take an iPod 3rd gen which can feature up to iOS 5.1.1 and can be found cheap.

 

[mikecwest]

Yeah but to learn I have to go across the basics, don't I?

I hope that learning to exploit something on older iOSes where it was easier, will help me getting into it also in the newest ones, I mean, at least I'll know something.

Also I've seen numerous recent hackers that weren't on the scene in older iOSes. I think I'll take an iPod 3rd gen which can feature up to iOS 5.1.1 and can be found cheap.

Yeah, you might be right. If you can learn to exploit a version that you know is exploitable, you can probably progress from there. Good luck!

 

[Carlanga]

3gs is a nice choice if you get the early releases since that is jb forever no matter how bad you play w it you can always jb again.

 

[R0gerBlack]

3gs is a nice choice if you get the early releases since that is jb forever no matter how bad you play w it you can always jb again.

True but I'd like to find one that was jailbroken in like every iOS release so that I could jump around... If I just take the first 3gs that I find, I assume it's 99% likely to be on iOS 6 with no chances to downgrade. And while playing with iOS 6 jailbroken may be interesting, I'm want to focus most on iOS 5 so far