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Carrier Should I ignore the PWM eye strain/headache issues with iPad Pro 12.9" M2 and just buy it?
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Why do you think it will kill your eyes? Do you have some condition that would predispose you to a problem? I'm near 70 and have no issue with my M1 12.9.
Most people don’t have problems with PWM.
Do you use one of the OLED iPhones? If the answer is yes, then PWM on the M2 iPP probably won’t be an issue for you.
Do you use one of the OLED iPhones? If the answer is yes, then PWM on the M2 iPP probably won’t be an issue for you.
Test it out in 14 days for those newest iPad before you decide.
Eye strain is definitely should not be the symptom you want to experience every day.
Eye strain is definitely should not be the symptom you want to experience every day.
I found a couple threads discussing the PWM on the Pro displays. Since I have high myopia and astigmatism, I'm worried that it would also give me eye strain and headaches.
I'm still using iPhone 7 plus. The only OLED device I have is my apple watch series 7.
I played with the iPad 12.9" M1 and iPad 11" M1 in an Apple Store for 20 minutes. With true tone and night shift turned on, the 12.9" min-LED looked much more white than the yellowish 11" LCD; the LCD felt more comfortable to me.
Makes sense then that you would want to give it a try to see if it's a problem for you. You have a 14-day return window with a new iPad so you could give it a shot.
Yea, the best way is to try it out. But I have social phobia, so I limit going out as much as possible.
Oh yeah iPad Pro 11” is still using the so-called ”inferior“ LCD. People just don’t realise or outright deny/ignore some benefits that we‘ve lost in the name of “technology advancement”.
I don’t think M2 iPad Pro 11” is any different than M1 counterpart in terms of the screen type. You might be able to adapt to M2 iPad Pro 11” before Apple switching to the so-called “superior” OLED.
Due to how LED works (PWM in steroids), there’s really not much Apple could do to ease eye strain unless they go 240Hz refresh rate or higher, which some suggest can reduce the eye strain.
I used to believe I had social phobia too, until I realise how powerful your mind could jam you from functioning properly and ruin everything you love. -_-
Now things are definitely going better for me.
In case, someone's subjective experience helps...
I'm one of those PWM-sensitive people (and return or sell OLED iPhones each year after I think I can muscle through it but decide the pain isn't worth it.)
Last year, I tried the M1 12.9, and the screen bothered me. Returned it and got the 2020 12.9 and have absolutely no problem.
I'd vote for trying it as it's the best iPad in the class and the screen is super crisp + white. If you have issues then return.
I have an issue with PWM so couldn't use the Mini-LED 12.9", but I had to try it. You won't know until you do.
I have an issue with PWM so couldn't use the Mini-LED 12.9", but I had to try it. You won't know until you do.
I had an AMOLED Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e. The first time I witnessed the effect of PWM. I could literally see the screen flashing and it hurt my eyes. It operated at very low of 245.1 Hz at max brightness.
Next I got M1 iPad Pro. Using it for a year with no problems. It has a consistent PWM of 19 190 Hz (or 19 kHz) across various levels of brightness.
Also have an OLED iPhone 13 Pro. PWM of 510 Hz. Not very high, you’d think, but I experienced zero problems.
M2 XDR PWM is unknown yet, I think, but it should be similar to 2021 XDR. Truth is everyone’s eyes are different so you have to try it yourself, but I’d say the chances you won’t have any problems with it are good.
Just try it out and see.
I also get headaches from PWM (can’t use OLED iPhones for more than 15 minutes). When I first got the 2021 iPP, I was getting headaches as well but it stopped after like a week or so, so I decided to keep the 2021 iPP instead of downgrading to a 2018 iPP 1TB LTE.
The 2020 12.9 iPP is plenty for reading/annotating pdfs, but you need M1/M2 to get every feature of iPadOS 16.
My coworker has been using her iPhone 12 for 2 years and she said her myopia increased by 2.5 diopters! But I'm not sure how much of that increase in nearsightedness can be attributed to her usage of the OLED screen since all of her other devices(iPad, Macbook, Studio Display) have LCD. She said she likes to read novels on her iPhone before bed.
iPad Pro 12.9” never can get LCD again at this point and most people would dismiss your issue entirely. Your only bet is Apple releasing a 240hz or 360hz OLED or something To mitigate the issue.
It’s a shame apple cares nothing about people with PWM sensitivities.
I'm trying to figure out an iPadOS 16 feature that I'll really miss...any that you're enjoying exclusive to M1 or M2?
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The More Space display option would make the iPad look more professional and less cartoonish.