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I have the iPad Air 2 but ever since I updated to iOS 11, the A8 chip has really been freezing and lagging. I'm considering selling the iPad Air 2 and buy the New iPad for the exact same price I get as profit. The positives of this is that it will be a newer chip with fast and smooth performance. Thoughts?
 
Get a 64gb iPad Pro 10.5 from microcenter for $499 or get a store to price match.

2gb of RAM will be sluggish in the near future.
 
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I’d do it.

The screen isn’t quite as good, but unless you need pro features the the speed bump will be big.

When the air was released it cost £399 and the new iPad is probably a natural successor to that. The pro is a significant extra cost for not a huge benefit.

Being on the cheaper iPad line, you can look forward to upgrades every 2 years or so that don’t break the bank and you can sell your old iPad each time.
 
I have been using my Air 2 every day since its introduction. It is still flying in my opinion and my 12,9 gen 2 doesn’t feel any particularly faster.

Upgrading to the new iPad just for the chip would be dumb but you do get the pen support if need be.
 
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We are in the same boat.My 8 years old daughter has iPad Air 2 64GB. Originally, I though I would upgrade to the new iPad (2018), but I do not want to spend close to $450 (we would be forced to buy 128 GB model in order to accommodate her 64GB) to have mediocre screen in a bigger device just to gain a bit of performance and pen support. We haven't ran into a situation that performance for her wasn't enough, so in this point it would only be the pen support which who knows if she would even enjoy after novelty wore off after few days. Going to sit this one out until current iOS does not support it or a true replacement for Air 2 is available for a reasonable price.
 
I wouldn't get rid of my Air2 for anything less than a 10.5 pro... I'd actually rather have a 9.7 pro than the 2018 iPad..

I could have piggybacked on a bunch of posts above, but I agree, anything other than the Pro (and at this point I'd say the 10.5" Pro) is at best a cross-grade, and since you already own the Air 2, you're just wasting money.

I will say that I can see that my 64GB Air 2 runs 10.3.3 a little quicker than my wife's 64GB Air 2 runs 11.whatever. But the difference isn't big, and the various UI upgrades in 11 probably more than make up for that. It certainly does for her.

If you're using a 9.7" iPad in real life, rather than just running some benchmarks, the Air 2 is still IMO the best choice unless you're willing to step up to the Pro.
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+1 on iTunes restore first.
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Nah. Not sluggish, it just wouldn't multitask as well.

Quoting to second (third, I guess) that suggestion.
 
Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions. I think I will be writing a year or two then.
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I’d do it.

The screen isn’t quite as good, but unless you need pro features the the speed bump will be big.

When the air was released it cost £399 and the new iPad is probably a natural successor to that. The pro is a significant extra cost for not a huge benefit.

Being on the cheaper iPad line, you can look forward to upgrades every 2 years or so that don’t break the bank and you can sell your old iPad each time.
Yes, for some reason iOS 11 seems to be running fine for everybody but for some reason, it lags with me.
 
I have an iPad Air 2 that still runs well, so I can't speak to lag, but I did get it soon after it came out so it's served me well for several years. My plan is to wait to see what Apple does with the 10.5 come September. The refresh rate might seem on paper like a small thing but I found it a noticeable difference when seeing it live in an Apple store. I don't know what you use your device for, but it seems like upgrading to the next would be more future-proof than an 'upgrade' to a device with the same processor as in an iPhone from a couple years ago and no real difference in RAM.
 
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I have been using my Air 2 every day since its introduction. It is still flying in my opinion and my 12,9 gen 2 doesn’t feel any particularly faster.

Upgrading to the new iPad just for the chip would be dumb but you do get the pen support if need be.

Yeah, I have the same two iPads. The only place I notice speed difference is playing Civ 6, which is very demanding (still playable on air 2, I just play smaller maps). I'm itching to upgrade to a 10.5, to have ASK and pencil on both of my devices. But I'm waiting until the next generation because my Air 2 is just performing too well to justify it.
 
I'm concerned this won't make a dent in the universe. The Scandinavian retailer, Komplett, have over 70 iPads in their inventory, and like most people I can spot the difference in screen size, but I am starting to feel like they are trying a bit too hard to replace the laptop with an iPad. I don't know why I am even looking at the list. What is the difference if I buy the most expensive model versus the least expensive model? I'm not going to use either of them for advanced and powerful operations. Games are the exception, and will always demand the most expensive hardware to play AAA titles.

The fun thing about games is that you are acquiring hardware for massive amounts of money to play 20-50 dollar software. I have a gaming PC, and I hate this equation. In enterprise it is different, you just pay per hour, per cpu and per GB as you need it in the cloud, and you get the bill from actual use, but with games you pay full upfront to play games you don't know how long will be popular, how long they will be supported or if they are any good at all.

I feel the difference in size has a lot more with your what you are willing to hold and how big your hands are. My wife likes the iPad mini, but they are not updating them anymore, so who cares? Most of the women migrate to the iPhone Plus instead of opting for another iPad Mini, and not having to pay for, charge and maintain two devices is a plus for the consumer, but does it make Apple richer?

I have tried connecting a Magic Keyboard to my iPad, and it was a fun experience while my MacBook Pro was in AppleCare, but it felt excessive and unnecessary when I got back my laptop. The lower price point doesn't really matter, as people who are on a budget doesn't buy Apple hardware. Apps for iPads are also sold at a poorer asking price than their desktop counterparts, and the developers have to pay 30% App Store tax to sell their software, making a lot software publishers ask themselves if it is worth the hassle.

Bottom line...
Right now I can't really see the future of the iPad. It is great for reading, but I seldom take it with me, nor do I buy anymore apps to it. In my case the development has stopped. The touch computers are lacking new features, and the only thing you are able to buy now are status and the highest price takes it all. The iPhone X seems like the only new product worth buying from Apple at the moment, but then again, you can always wait...then wait some more...until the future finally arrives.
 
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I'm concerned this won't make a dent in the universe. The Scandinavian retailer, Komplett, have over 70 iPads in their inventory, and like most people I can spot the difference in screen size, but I am starting to feel like they are trying a bit too hard to replace the laptop with an iPad. I don't know why I am even looking at the list. What is the difference if I buy the most expensive model versus the least expensive model? I'm not going to use either of them for advanced and powerful operations. Games are the exception, and will always demand the most expensive hardware to play AAA titles.

The fun thing about games is that you are acquiring hardware for massive amounts of money to play 20-50 dollar software. I have a gaming PC, and I hate this equation. In enterprise it is different, you just pay per hour, per cpu and per GB as you need it in the cloud, and you get the bill from actual use, but with games you pay full upfront to play games you don't know how long will be popular, how long they will be supported or if they are any good at all.

I feel the difference in size has a lot more with your what you are willing to hold and how big your hands are. My wife likes the iPad mini, but they are not updating them anymore, so who cares? Most of the women migrate to the iPhone Plus instead of opting for another iPad Mini, and not having to pay for, charge and maintain two devices is a plus.

I have tried connecting a Magic Keyboard to my iPad, and it was a fun experience while my MacBook Pro was in AppleCare, but it felt excessive and unnecessary when I got back my laptop. The lower price point doesn't really matter, as people who are on a budget doesn't buy Apple hardware. Apps for iPads are also sold at a poorer asking price than their desktop counterparts, and the developers have to pay 30% App Store tax to sell their software, making a lot software publishers ask themselves if it is worth the hassle.

Bottom line...
Right now I can't really see the future of the iPad. It is great for reading, but I seldom take it with me, nor do I buy anymore apps to it. In my case the development has stopped. The touch computers are lacking new features, and the only thing you are able to buy now are status and the highest price takes it all. The iPhone X seems like the only new product worth buying from Apple at the moment, but then again, you can always wait...then wait some more...until the future finally arrives.

The thing is that just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean no one does. There are plenty of us who, as adamantly as others have said that for them an ipad could never replace a laptop, have nonetheless found that for us, an ipad can be a very enjoyable laptop replacement. For me, it is actually an improved experience over my MBP (which I sold because I didn’t use it after I got my 12.9), for both work (online teaching) and play.
 
Keep in mind that the new iPad doesn't include a laminated screen or anti-reflective coating. The A8X with 2GB of RAM is still plenty powerful and runs fine on iOS 11. Doing a clean install of iOS 11 via iTunes should solve your problems.

Those are deal breakers for me.
 
The thing is that just because you don’t see it...

I may excuse myself for an anecdotal example, but I've tried to work with text on the iPad and the iPhone, and it is hard to mark text, I mistype and wrongly select a lot more, because if I add a keyboard, I am back at my MacBook Pro. I understand a real estate agent showcasing prospects on it and for signing digital agreements or an online teacher proofing answers and chatting a few lines with their students may work very nice, but as a laptop replacement, not in a million years. I feel all software on iPads and all other touch environments have to be learned or adapted very heavily, while on a desktop or laptop you can actually make changes that fit the user.

Apple was once renowned for making designs that fit very universally, and the experience of using an Apple product is still very good, but the shrinking distance between the competition and Apple is becoming noticeable. Nobody is really excited about the western hardware and software, all unicorns are flying high in Asia, where there is growth and cheap is better than pricey. As much as I love to get discounted products, I love to have the newest device, but the flash has gone in touch computing. It is normalised, boring and all apps are owned by big conglomerates. Startups are not grassroots, neither are they any good. I think the height of the smartphone was iPhone and FaceBook in the west, and now it is all about Tencent and the east. At least if you think about growth. The west is just about fast-food, delivery and real estate.

I could use my iPhone X to buy stocks, fill in my spreadsheets and pay my bills, but at the end of the day, I still think that a Mac or a PC in form of a laptop or a desktop bring bigger ideas than those I can get with a touch screen. Marking and manipulating text, numbers and data is one of the greatest strengths of a conventional computer. I seldom witness that on an iPad. Actually a good thing with touch is that it got rid of alot of popups and frames on the web, because they became unusable on a touch screen with small areas to click with a finger. There is also a great amount of evidence from studies that iPads are good for preschool environments, but cease to make a difference when they have learnt how to write and need to form sentences. I've actually used my iPads to learn my kids numbers and the alphabet, but it ceased to be productive with the very introduction of 123 and ABC, as I would need other tools to learn them how to form their language to their surroundings. You know tools which can't be thought with a screen.
 
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