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should i sell my 12core beast?

SDAVE

SDAVE

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I have a 2010 mid MP 12 core 3.33Ghz , Lots of RAM, GTX780 and SSD on SATA 3.0 for OS X Yosemite.

I have a buyer for 3k on eBay, of course after fees...you get the picture.

I upgraded this machine myself so it's not like I originally paid a billion dollars for it.

Any thoughts appreciated before i pull trigger.

I have a Mid 2014 Macbook Pro Retina to keep me going, I don't use my desktop that much anymore, however I was kind of excited to play Phantom Pain on PC via Steam :D
 
You can sell it, buy another and upgrade it and still pocket money for that price, if you wanted.

If you don't really use it and won't miss it, pull the trigger.
 
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cw48494 said:
You can sell it, buy another and upgrade it and still pocket money for that price, if you wanted.

If you don't really use it and won't miss it, pull the trigger.
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Genius.

I mean the MP2010 is showing its age in terms of memory bus speed and new features in the last few generations of Intel processors and chipsets. It is a super fast machine, tho. 30k in Geekbench.
 
Get the money while you still can. i think egpus going mainstream maybe within a year will crash the value of the cmp.
 
brand said:
If you have already listed it, the auction has ended, and you have a buyer aren't you obligated to sell it.
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I had it up with offer option and I accepted. Seems like a good idea to me. It's a beautiful machine and I will miss it :(
 
RoastingPig said:
Get the money while you still can. i think egpus going mainstream maybe within a year will crash the value of the cmp.
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I think so too. Mobile can do so much more nowadays.

What's funny is the nMP that's 12 core and costs more than twice as much doesn't even hold a candle to the upgraded cMP, except maybe single threaded performance, and it's not that big of a margin anyhow.
 
I've got one, and I can tell you it aint going' nowhere. In fact I'm still updating it. I just bought a Samsung SM951 512GB along with a Lycom PCIe card. And yes I do have a laptop, an MBA.

Lou
 
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I've got one, and I can tell you it aint going' nowhere. In fact I'm still updating it. I just bought a Samsung SM951 512GB along with a Lycom PCIe card. And yes I do have a laptop, an MBA.

Lou
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The problem is the motherboard is stuck on an old Intel chipset for Westmere architecture and you can't take advantage of new really great features of newer Intel processors like Turboboost 2.0, etc.. The memory bus is maxed out at 1333Mhz. PCIe2.0, when PCIe 4.0 is on the rise.
 
SDAVE said:
The problem is the motherboard is stuck on an old Intel chipset for Westmere architecture and you can't take advantage of new really great features of newer Intel processors like Turboboost 2.0, etc.. The memory bus is maxed out at 1333Mhz. PCIe2.0, when PCIe 4.0 is on the rise.
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Yep, you're right, but as long as it can keep up with the nMP, and has that great form factor and expandability, I intend to keep mine for a long time.

Lou
 
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SDAVE said:
The problem is the motherboard is stuck on an old Intel chipset for Westmere architecture and you can't take advantage of new really great features of newer Intel processors like Turboboost 2.0, etc.. The memory bus is maxed out at 1333Mhz. PCIe2.0, when PCIe 4.0 is on the rise.
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You won't see the benefit of pcie 4 for years. Even the benefits of 3 are only starting to be seen in storage devices for capturing very large files, for GPUs the improvement is tiny. Don't fall for the tech industry's hype all the time that you must buy the latest greatest newest upgrades. Often they push things on to the market long before they are useful just to make the accountants and shareholders happy with more sales.
 
SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
You won't see the benefit of pcie 4 for years. Even the benefits of 3 are only starting to be seen in storage devices for capturing very large files, for GPUs the improvement is tiny. Don't fall for the tech industry's hype all the time that you must buy the latest greatest newest upgrades. Often they push things on to the market long before they are useful just to make the accountants and shareholders happy with more sales.
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It's not just PCIe4.0, it's things like Thunderbolt 3.0, large L3 cache on CPU's, better single threaded performance, lower power usage, less heat, etc.

I recently helped a friend build a *cough* Hackintosh *cough* and all he has is a very recent z97 Intel mobo, a decent i7 CPU, and booting into it right off the bat you can notice how it flies in terms of performance. Of course you get things like AirPlay video etc with newer architectures.

I'm not saying the cMP is a done deal, but it's old -- that doesn't mean that you still can't be productive on it. I'm just saying my Mid 2014 rMBP has half the Geekbench score and better single threaded performance of the 12 core nMP, of course it can't touch the GPU of a full blow desktop, but you get the point.
 
SDAVE said:
It's not just PCIe4.0, it's things like Thunderbolt 3.0, large L3 cache on CPU's, better single threaded performance, lower power usage, less heat, etc.

I recently helped a friend build a *cough* Hackintosh *cough* and all he has is a very recent z97 Intel mobo, a decent i7 CPU, and booting into it right off the bat you can notice how it flies in terms of performance. Of course you get things like AirPlay video etc with newer architectures.

I'm not saying the cMP is a done deal, but it's old -- that doesn't mean that you still can't be productive on it. I'm just saying my Mid 2014 rMBP has half the Geekbench score and better single threaded performance of the 12 core nMP, of course it can't touch the GPU of a full blow desktop, but you get the point.
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I'm just seeing too many people rely on synthetic benchmarks and subjective observations instead of real world use. If you have six core anything, with any decent SSD, with at least 12GB memory, and a good graphics card then you are on fire in many apps and games. The whole 12 cores, PCIE SSD thing, SLI graphics, is for hobbyists and maniacs, which from time to time I don't mind admit that I am. But I also like to be realistic about the level of performance most of us reasonably need and can get out of a machine. Thunderbolt is probably the only addition the cMP could have used for those people editing multiple streams of very high res RAW video. But then again, RED and others offer video capture cards for that.
 
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I'm just seeing too many people rely on synthetic benchmarks and subjective observations instead of real world use. If you have six core anything, with any decent SSD, with at least 12GB memory, and a good graphics card then you are on fire in many apps and games. The whole 12 cores, PCIE SSD thing, SLI graphics, is for hobbyists and maniacs, which from time to time I don't mind admit that I am. But I also like to be realistic about the level of performance most of us reasonably need and can get out of a machine. Thunderbolt is probably the only addition the cMP could have used for those people editing multiple streams of very high res RAW video. But then again, RED and others offer video capture cards for that.
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I'm not one of those people who rely on synthetic benchmarks. I can use a crappy computer to make something good and be productive.

The point is, the Mid2010 MP and even the 2009 are showing its age. The chipset, memory, etc are old and single threaded performance is lower compared to more modern CPUs and chipsets. Not even talking about power usage here. We need to conserve energy usage.

I've done some great work on the 12 core MP and it's a beast, but originally I was owndering if I have a mid 2014 rMBP and I don't do any heavy lifting anymore, would I be ok with getting rid of the cMP while it is still retaining it's value?

I went ahead and sold it to a good user, hopefully they find a good use for it.

You don't even need thunderbolt, you can do a lot over network (gigabit) or even Fibre channel cards in a real world environment.
 
SDAVE said:
I have a 2010 mid MP 12 core 3.33Ghz , Lots of RAM, GTX780 and SSD on SATA 3.0 for OS X Yosemite.

I have a buyer for 3k on eBay, of course after fees...you get the picture.

I upgraded this machine myself so it's not like I originally paid a billion dollars for it.

Any thoughts appreciated before i pull trigger.

I have a Mid 2014 Macbook Pro Retina to keep me going, I don't use my desktop that much anymore, however I was kind of excited to play Phantom Pain on PC via Steam :D
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3K? That sounds pretty low. Not because that's not what it's worth these days, but then you are accepting a several thousand dollar loss on the machine. If you find the machine useful in circumstances that come up fairly often, then don't sell it. If it is collecting dust, then you might as well sell it for 3k.
 
SDAVE said:
I have a 2010 mid MP 12 core 3.33Ghz , Lots of RAM, GTX780 and SSD on SATA 3.0 for OS X Yosemite.

I have a buyer for 3k on eBay, of course after fees...you get the picture.

I upgraded this machine myself so it's not like I originally paid a billion dollars for it.

Any thoughts appreciated before i pull trigger.

I have a Mid 2014 Macbook Pro Retina to keep me going, I don't use my desktop that much anymore, however I was kind of excited to play Phantom Pain on PC via Steam :D
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I've been playing Phantom Pain on my cMP (6-core 3.33GHz / GTX680 4GB) for the best part of this weekend and it is amazing! The game is awesome, obviously, and this relatively old hardware still delivers! 1080P everything on high; no sweat, even 4K runs ok. I'm streaming the game over WiFi AC to my MBA which is connected to the TV, and I'm surprised at how good this works, not a single hiccup. Going to try this streaming over VPN as well, curious if it stays playable then.

On topic; sad to see your cMP Pro go SDAVE, hope the new user will put it to good use :)
 
Zwhaler said:
3K? That sounds pretty low. Not because that's not what it's worth these days, but then you are accepting a several thousand dollar loss on the machine. If you find the machine useful in circumstances that come up fairly often, then don't sell it. If it is collecting dust, then you might as well sell it for 3k.
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I updated it myself. I'm actually making a profit on it.
I can always buy a used one and upgrade it myself, but It was collecting dust for about a year and taking up space. Sad to see it go, though.
 
SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
I'm just seeing too many people rely on synthetic benchmarks and subjective observations instead of real world use. If you have six core anything, with any decent SSD, with at least 12GB memory, and a good graphics card then you are on fire in many apps and games. The whole 12 cores, PCIE SSD thing, SLI graphics, is for hobbyists and maniacs, which from time to time I don't mind admit that I am. But I also like to be realistic about the level of performance most of us reasonably need and can get out of a machine. Thunderbolt is probably the only addition the cMP could have used for those people editing multiple streams of very high res RAW video. But then again, RED and others offer video capture cards for that.
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Amen. For most everything, my system is just loafing. And games are solely limited by GPU.
 
SDAVE said:
I updated it myself. I'm actually making a profit on it.
I can always buy a used one and upgrade it myself, but It was collecting dust for about a year and taking up space. Sad to see it go, though.
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Definitely sell it. How are you making a profit on it, though? The cheapest dual processor 5,1 cost more than 3 grand new. Unless you bought used.
 
Zwhaler said:
Definitely sell it. How are you making a profit on it, though? The cheapest dual processor 5,1 cost more than 3 grand new. Unless you bought used.
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I sold it already along with my 30" ACD.

I bought a dual proc 5,1 with 28GB RAM and a 5770 for $1400 used but pristine condition from a colleague. It had lowly 2.4Ghz (8core) low end processors. I popped in x5680's for $380 and put in a GTX780 and upgraded the SSD which I already had from years ago with a PCIe card.

Oh I also had already sold my original 8core 2008MP for $900 at that time.
 
SDAVE said:
I sold it already along with my 30" ACD.

I bought a dual proc 5,1 with 28GB RAM and a 5770 for $1400 used but pristine condition from a colleague. It had lowly 2.4Ghz (8core) low end processors. I popped in x5680's for $380 and put in a GTX780 and upgraded the SSD which I already had from years ago with a PCIe card.

Oh I also had already sold my original 8core 2008MP for $900 at that time.
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Nice deal. My only remaining question here is when? I dropped way too much on mine, but that was in 2011.
 
Zwhaler said:
Nice deal. My only remaining question here is when? I dropped way too much on mine, but that was in 2011.
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I'm surprised the nMP is still so expensive considering the processor is pretty old by now. But then again Intel doesn't upgrade Xeon's that quickly.
 
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