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blackxacto

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I used to be able to open Console and watch current processes for things going wrong. Sierra Console is different, or at least I haven’t found where to do this in Sierra Console. Not being a programmer, does anyone know if this ability still exists in Console?
 
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Floris

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The Console app where you review log files, or the command line interface one, Terminal where you enter commands like: ls -all
 

blackxacto

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The Console app where you review log files, or the command line interface one, Terminal where you enter commands like: ls -all
Not knowing terminology, I used to open Console to something like"all processes running" at this window in console, anything that happened on the machine was recorded in some descriptive process line, continually being updated as the mac ran. Errors were so easy to spot in this continuous running report.

Sorry my terminology is lacking.
 

Floris

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A visual program to show all the applications and services running on OSX (now macOS with Sierra) is called the Activity Monitor.

To do it from from the console, or rather, the command line interface with the Terminal app, you type at the prompt: ps aux

Since terminology is a bit new to you, I also recommend to go with the 'gui' version (graphical user interface), the Activity Monitor.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201464
 

zaxxon72

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In their infinite wisdom, Apple abolished the text-logfiles UNIX is famous for. We're stuck with some kind of binary database now. "Unified logging" is the term Apple is using.
This is also why Console.app does not work anymore like it used to. At the moment I'm at the same stage as you, I don't have a solution to get the same behavior as before.
 
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blackxacto

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In their infinite wisdom, Apple abolished the text-logfiles UNIX is famous for. We're stuck with some kind of binary database now. "Unified logging" is the term Apple is using.
This is also why Console.app does not work anymore like it used to. At the moment I'm at the same stage as you, I don't have a solution to get the same behavior as before.
Yes, I believe you describe what I used to watch for errors, the text log files. I wish we could resurrect them ?
 

RiderX

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Yes, I believe you describe what I used to watch for errors, the text log files. I wish we could resurrect them ?

Console.app is buggy as hell. No more easy access to logfiles.

Everything is now done with the "log" command at command line/Terminal. "man log" is an introduction.

Ugly, as you finally end up to write shell scripts for logging. Unless you're a hardcore typist.
 
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blackxacto

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So let's say I experience an error/crash of an app at 2:00 AM. It's now 9:00 AM. Does Console allow me to look back in logs, and see what happened at the time of the crash? I can't find where to do this in Console. Anyone know how?
 

foxlet

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As far as I'm aware, Console shows errors in realtime by selecting your device on the pane:

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There's also system.log on the same pane which has recorded errors from before you started Console.
 

blackxacto

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I may be wrong, but Sierra Console pulls log files of the present, there is no pulling past (overnite) logging. Maybe Im wrong.
 

blackxacto

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The only thing I got from that is that error messages are yellow dotted and faults are red dotted. I hope developers understood the rest, I didn't.

I still want to know how to pull a complete log file of the past 24hours, for example.
 

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The only thing I got from that is that error messages are yellow dotted and faults are red dotted. I hope developers understood the rest, I didn't.

I still want to know how to pull a complete log file of the past 24hours, for example.

I'm in the same situation, basically looking for the buttons that used to be at the bottom of the screen for navigation across the timeline (especially the one labeled "Earlier").

Has anyone found a way to get something like the display of the El Capitan console?

Thanks.

Dave
 
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