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AWishForNoOne

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i like the simplicty of safari but it feels like there's something missing. maybe it's because i've been using cluttered browsers that have a bunch of useless extra stuff i can't help but feel like there's something missing. does anyone else feel that way too?
 
I do know what you mean. But I think it is a good thing. I think we ARE just used to clutter. Since i've started using Safari with it's less cluttered interface and great enhancements to the bookmarks feature I find myself not even noticing the browser and just experiencing the content. I do want an autofill feature and maybe tabbed browsing (though I've never really used it since IE was my default browser).
 
Originally posted by Cursor
For me it's Tabs. I used the Tabs function a lot with Chimera.:(

Agreed. I'll use it, but I won't switch unless they start offering tabs.

I read a short "here's an intro to Safari" article on mac.oreilly.com, and one of the followup comments was complaining about how it implements tabs. So I check SoftwareUpdate, and build 51 is out. So I upgrade, ready to check out the newly-added tabs. I found no tabs.


D.
 
Originally posted by jholzner
Since i've started using Safari with it's less cluttered interface and great enhancements to the bookmarks feature I find myself not even noticing the browser and just experiencing the content.

How true, exactly how I feel. There are a few more necessities however, we do neet the autofill as everyone says, and I'll go for tabs though I have never used them before, I'm always up for new things, especially coming from apple.

Just an idea, but what would you guys think about having safari work with iTunes. For example, somewhere in the header or footer there could be an iTunes remote almost so we could listen to music while browing without having to open iTunes

wait -- come to think of it, that's kinda pointless, wasteful, and only reinforcing the fact that I am becoming ever more lazy.

But hey, it's an idea. :)
 
it'd be nice if i could customize the toolbar a bit.
i like the "minimilist" feel to it, but there are some utilitarian features (print, home) that they left out.

in my opinion, the only feature it has over Chimera is "Snap Back." Other than that, Chimera beats it, hands down.
 
a 'throbber' ?

I hate to admit it, but something that lets you know Safari is trying to connect to that link you just clicked. The progress bar behind the URL (which I love) doesn't start until Safari has gotten either a DNS reply or initial reply from the site.

LJW
 
Re: a 'throbber' ?

Originally posted by viggen61
I hate to admit it, but something that lets you know Safari is trying to connect to that link you just clicked. The progress bar behind the URL (which I love) doesn't start until Safari has gotten either a DNS reply or initial reply from the site.

LJW

and there we are! perfect - a new version of IE named safari!



puah! :mad:
 
Re: Re: a 'throbber' ?

Originally posted by eyeluvmyimac


and there we are! perfect - a new version of IE named safari!



puah! :mad:


Which side of the friggin bed did your butt fall off of this morning? I'm just loking for SOME RESPONSE from the program when I click on a link, and maybe my broadband is running slow, or the DNS isn't replying quickly enough.

IE isn't the only one that uses a 'throbber'. Besides, the response doesn't have to appear like that. I'm sure Apple can come up with something more refined.
 
sorry about that, the comment wasn't directed at you so much as the ideas surfacing for changing the concept apple has presented thusfar - a minimalistic design with the bare-necessities. Sorry to have made it sound so harsh to you. It's not a bad feature and could be useful, but a status bar I think would serve the purpose fairly well at the bottom.

Sorry! :D
 
Originally posted by eyeluvmyimac
sorry about that, the comment wasn't directed at you so much as the ideas surfacing for changing the concept apple has presented thusfar - a minimalistic design with the bare-necessities. Sorry to have made it sound so harsh to you. It's not a bad feature and could be useful, but a status bar I think would serve the purpose fairly well at the bottom.

Sorry! :D

No problem. I flew off a bit strong too. I don't want it to be IE, but many of IEs features were in Mosaic 6 years ago!

I love Safari's speed, reasonably good compatibility (better than OmniWeb, not quite so good as IE- Mac. Yet!), and the simple interface.

You just get used to some things...
 
Originally posted by morlium
it'd be nice if i could customize the toolbar a bit.
i like the "minimilist" feel to it, but there are some utilitarian features (print, home) that they left out.

Home button can be activated from the View menu.
 
any one else notice how slow flash files play in Safari as opposed to Chimera or IE.. i tried it on a few site that I know have flash content and Safari is by far the slowest.
 
Originally posted by insidedanshead
any one else notice how slow flash files play in Safari as opposed to Chimera or IE.. i tried it on a few site that I know have flash content and Safari is by far the slowest.
yes, I know my Page aas its logo in flash, and it is very slow next to Omniweb, Chimera, IE etc...
 
Originally posted by eyeluvmyimac


Just an idea, but what would you guys think about having safari work with iTunes. For example, somewhere in the header or footer there could be an iTunes remote almost so we could listen to music while browing without having to open iTunes

wait -- come to think of it, that's kinda pointless, wasteful, and only reinforcing the fact that I am becoming ever more lazy.

But hey, it's an idea. :)

Actually, I kind of like that idea. I often like to listen to music when I'm doing stuff at the computer, and since both iTunes and Safari are Apple products, I'm sure they could find a way to have some iTunes stuff built into Safari. The only thing is...this would make Safari more bulky, with added features that aren't necessary--which is what Apple is trying to avoid by creating such a fast, slim browser. Nice idea, though.
 
What's missing is a Standard LINKS bar.

What is missing from Safari is standard navigation links. Mozilla, Opera, and iCab have all implemented standard navigation bars beautifully. The only major browser that haven't are MSIE and Safari (and, well, sadly, Chimera, if you consider that a major browser).

Standard links navigation takes information from LINK elements in the HEAD element of the HTML document. <link rel="Home" href="index.html /> is an example of the code in XHTML. The browser that supports standard links will enable an icon or word in the standard navigation bar, and clicking this word or icon will bring your site visitor back to your home page from any page in your site that contains that code (where "index.html" is the proper relative link to your home page; in some cases, it would be "../index.html" and so on, but you get my point).

Now, I know Safari has its nice little SnapBack widget, but there are numerous standard links other than "Home." They include: first, previous, next, last, glossary, help, copyright, author, table of contents, chapter, section, subsection, appendix, index, search, bookmarks, and other versions. You are even free to make up your own, though the browsers may only create icon/word buttons for the standard ones and create a drop-down list for author's particular creations.

Navigation bars in browsers take up less screen space than almost any navbar an author can put in the body of the HTML document, and they simplify site navigation for Web authors and readers alike.

For a good read on the LINK element, see http://www.subotnik.net/html/link

To experience reading a site with links navigation, fire up Mozilla, Opera, or iCab and head on over to http://danielgreene.com/vwvalor/

And please request this feature in Safari! =)
 
Originally posted by morlium
it'd be nice if i could customize the toolbar a bit.
i like the "minimilist" feel to it, but there are some utilitarian features (print, home) that they left out.

in my opinion, the only feature it has over Chimera is "Snap Back." Other than that, Chimera beats it, hands down.

there is a "home" button.

* click view

* activate "Home"

yeah, print button is missing. or a "forward to... email option"...
 
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