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hesoba

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Jul 7, 2017
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Hey guys. The headline says it. Take the phone off the hook at 8:30 every day. Siri has been vacuuming my battery for two days and I don't know why. I never use Siri. What’s this 8DD525ED-165D-4145-A2B6-D5D65F0171E7.png
 
It could be because of Siri's settings "Von dieser App lernen" under "Siri & Suchen". Maybe Siri is actively getting info from apps in the background - especially when you say you don't use Siri actively.
 
Is there a chance you're using the word "sh*tty" a lot? Maybe Siri thinks you're calling her.
Fun fact, as the screenshot is in German, the probability of this is very low. In German there's not a single word that is close to "Siri" I can think of right now, so ... nope :D
 
I shut down everYthing with Siri. Still last hour 97 percent usage ...
 
I shut down everYthing with Siri. Still last hour 97 percent usage ...

Look at the 10 day usage for accuracy and overall comparisons. Siri's actual impact on battery is more apparent that way....

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I use Siri voice controls A LOT plus all my apps especially the 4 apps above are leveraging Siri's intent frameworks very heavily.

97% usage of an hour isn't a useful metric if your total usage was 1% battery consumption.

Skynet err I mean Siri can not be "shut down" now that its become self aware. Siri is an integral system service in iOS. Spotlight Search is now Siri functionality and all the predictive based frameworks in UIKit (intents), CallKit (phone and contacts which your high usage of contacts is why Siri is used so much), and much more all fall under "Siri". Even the small stuff like the order contacts are in when you use the Share function in every app are Siri based.

If you want to mitigate usage as much as possible goto Settings > Siri & Seach, turn off all the toggles (including Hey Siri), go through every single app and turn off at least "Learn from this App" and "Show Siri suggestions" in apps that have that option. Avoid using Maps, Phone, Contacts (anything using CallKit). The hit to user experience isn't worth it for me but to each their own.
 
Look at the 10 day usage for accuracy and overall comparisons. Siri's actual impact on battery is more apparent that way....

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I use Siri voice controls A LOT plus all my apps especially the 4 apps above are leveraging Siri's intent frameworks very heavily.

97% usage of an hour isn't a useful metric if your total usage was 1% battery consumption.

Skynet err I mean Siri can not be "shut down" now that its become self aware. Siri is an integral system service in iOS. Spotlight Search is now Siri functionality and all the predictive based frameworks in UIKit (intents), CallKit (phone and contacts which your high usage of contacts is why Siri is used so much), and much more all fall under "Siri". Even the small stuff like the order contacts are in when you use the Share function in every app are Siri based.

If you want to mitigate usage as much as possible goto Settings > Siri & Seach, turn off all the toggles (including Hey Siri), go through every single app and turn off at least "Learn from this App" and "Show Siri suggestions" in apps that have that option. Avoid using Maps, Phone, Contacts (anything using CallKit). The hit to user experience isn't worth it for me but to each their own.
I had everything enabled and the most Siri ever used in a day was 1% and negligible most of the time. I don’t have Background App Refresh and I use Siri occasionally. It stayed the same even with Siri watch face on my Series 4. Not sure why you guys are seeing such a high usage.
 
I had everything enabled and the most Siri ever used in a day was 1% and negligible most of the time. I don’t have Background App Refresh and I use Siri occasionally. It stayed the same even with Siri watch face on my Series 4. Not sure why you guys are seeing such a high usage.

I'm not seeing unexpectedly high usage for the amount of stuff I do that is Siri related either directly or indirectly. I was trying to make it clear going off two metric won't give you the entire picture or individual app/feature battery usage. Plus the amount to things Siri is doing outside of being a voice assistant.
 
Look at the 10 day usage for accuracy and overall comparisons. Siri's actual impact on battery is more apparent that way....

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View attachment 898880

I use Siri voice controls A LOT plus all my apps especially the 4 apps above are leveraging Siri's intent frameworks very heavily.

97% usage of an hour isn't a useful metric if your total usage was 1% battery consumption.

Skynet err I mean Siri can not be "shut down" now that its become self aware. Siri is an integral system service in iOS. Spotlight Search is now Siri functionality and all the predictive based frameworks in UIKit (intents), CallKit (phone and contacts which your high usage of contacts is why Siri is used so much), and much more all fall under "Siri". Even the small stuff like the order contacts are in when you use the Share function in every app are Siri based.

If you want to mitigate usage as much as possible goto Settings > Siri & Seach, turn off all the toggles (including Hey Siri), go through every single app and turn off at least "Learn from this App" and "Show Siri suggestions" in apps that have that option. Avoid using Maps, Phone, Contacts (anything using CallKit). The hit to user experience isn't worth it for me but to each their own.
I understand. But it is very much noticeable that the phone dies quicker than usual. I mean. We are not dumb. We know how long the phone lasts out of experience , or should last in this case
 
I understand. But it is very much noticeable that the phone dies quicker than usual. I mean. We are not dumb. We know how long the phone lasts out of experience , or should last in this case

I'm not saying you or anyone is dumb. Like I mentioned you didn't post more information so I can only go off Siri using the most battery but not how much or if thats a problem. Plus not many people know or understand how deeply "Siri" is integrated into iOS 13 outside of your normal voice control. Phone calls that say "Maybe (name)?" pulled from email, phone data database (previously spotlight), calendar events pulled from email directly to the calendar, flight information obtained from email, directions in maps from messages, route and traffic conditions on the lock screen from home to work or vice versa, reminders to callback missed calls, optimize charging algorithms, share contacts order, personalized music suggestions, etc etc list goes on for days....its all Siri (AI, machine learning and deep learning are categorized under Siri).

If battery is an issue, I would also investigate why the contacts app is up there too. One of those issues is likely causing the other.

Are contacts not syncing properly? If that is the case logging out and back into iCloud has fixed that for me. You can try turning off contacts in iCloud and going under Settings > Password & Accounts and turning off Contact sync if you have other email addresses using them. Also make sure an app isn't constantly polling contacts, like Instagram for example (disallow a contact access since it syncs your contacts to their services). You can also goto settings > contacts > Siri & Search and toggle everything off. Doing those one at a time will clue you in on the actual culprit.

Just some suggestions.
 
Suddenly I have the same issue, Siri and Contacts drain almost all of my battery.
When the only change you made, is iOS update and there are no new apps installed and the use pattern remains the same it's obvious that when someone like me was having almost 2 full days usage of phone but now it goes to 10 hours the most, something has changed dramatically.
And the only parameter changed is the update!
The percentage that I have reaches around 45% to Siri and another 40-45% to Contacts.
In contacts is more obvious to see the malfunction.
When I look the file/card of any of the names stored, I see the icons on top ("call", "message", "Viber" etc) to turn blue/grey continuously. Obviously the phone tries to identify over and over again the links that the person has with other apps (Viber, iMessage, etc)

This behaviour is obviously software issue and the overload of our batteries creates a hardware issue too (to battery). Maybe to ask a free battery replacement is certainly not bad idea, as the 85-90% usage that I have is only from this behaviour!

I have this problem for a month now and due to the quarantine I could charge with no issues but when I will be back on the street this would be a real problem!

I have just start to try fix the problem with few suggestions I read. Will see. If I make it I will update my comment accordingly!

Regards


1st attempt. Resetting settlings. 3,5 hours later I've lost 30% of the battery (from 100> 70%)

2st attempt I went to contacts (in settings) and close all the Siri options I found there. After 2 days of use the problem seems that solved! I started this morning with 90% and now (19:00) with my normal use I have 63%!!

For me case is closed, I don't really care about Siri in contacts and I will check in a future iOS update if the problem is solved by opening again the access of Siri to contacts.

I hope this will help others too...

Look at the 10 day usage for accuracy and overall comparisons. Siri's actual impact on battery is more apparent that way....

(click)
View attachment 898880

I use Siri voice controls A LOT plus all my apps especially the 4 apps above are leveraging Siri's intent frameworks very heavily.

97% usage of an hour isn't a useful metric if your total usage was 1% battery consumption.

Skynet err I mean Siri can not be "shut down" now that its become self aware. Siri is an integral system service in iOS. Spotlight Search is now Siri functionality and all the predictive based frameworks in UIKit (intents), CallKit (phone and contacts which your high usage of contacts is why Siri is used so much), and much more all fall under "Siri". Even the small stuff like the order contacts are in when you use the Share function in every app are Siri based.

If you want to mitigate usage as much as possible goto Settings > Siri & Seach, turn off all the toggles (including Hey Siri), go through every single app and turn off at least "Learn from this App" and "Show Siri suggestions" in apps that have that option. Avoid using Maps, Phone, Contacts (anything using CallKit). The hit to user experience isn't worth it for me but to each their own.
 
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