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I am no fan of windows 10, but out of curiosity do any of you know why, or have any thoughts about how OSX El Capitan does not include a Siri interface such as Windows 10 has Cortana?
 
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VolceOntra

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It doesn't include it because Apple did not program it.

I'm sure it'll probably be included in the future.
 
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bmac89

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The main focus of El Capitan is under the hood performance tweaks and Apple probably doesn't see a large need to implement Siri for a desktop computer. I'm sure it will be added one day!
 
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SDAVE

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You already have voice recognition feature by hitting FN twice, but of course it's not siri.

I have a feeling they'll add it as a "feature" in the next MacBook Pro.
 
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devinthomas

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You already have voice recognition feature by hitting FN twice, but of course it's not siri.

I have a feeling they'll add it as a "feature" in the next MacBook Pro.
I would think Microsoft set a great president in supporting Cortana on basically any modern machine with a microphone. There is absolutely no reason Siri wouldn't just be an OS X feature available for any Mac in the past 3-4 years.
 
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zhaoxin

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Microsoft uses Cortana as it needs that to rise up the percentage of Bing. Apple don't have its own search engine. So it makes no good for apple to do that.
 
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bmac89

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Microsoft uses Cortana as it needs that to rise up the percentage of Bing. Apple don't have its own search engine. So it makes no good for apple to do that.

This is slightly off topic, but I have never understood why Spotlight search uses Bing (Microsoft). I have heard people say it doesn't use Google because they are competition but Microsoft is also competition.

However what puzzles me the most is why the user can't choose what search engine to use in Spotlight.
 
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actor90

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This is slightly off topic, but I have never understood why Spotlight search uses Bing (Microsoft). I have heard people say it doesn't use Google because they are competition but Microsoft is also competition.

However what puzzles me the most is why the user can't choose what search engine to use in Spotlight.
Microsoft pays Apple a fee to be the default search in spotlight. Apple dropped Google because of the creation of android and switched it to Bing on iOS. Microsoft pays for the privilege.
 

bmac89

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Microsoft pays Apple a fee to be the default search in spotlight. Apple dropped Google because of the creation of android and switched it to Bing on iOS. Microsoft pays for the privilege.

Interesting - thanks! But I wonder why Apple didn't just go with a different search engine all together. If I recall correctly, they use duckduckgo for private browsing so why not just use it system wide?
 
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Erastopic

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Microsoft pays Apple a fee to be the default search in spotlight. Apple dropped Google because of the creation of android and switched it to Bing on iOS. Microsoft pays for the privilege.

Actually, Apple stopped using Google as the main search engine because their long running contract ran out. Their maps and Safari search contract ended this year but Apple cut the contract short as both Yahoo and Microsoft approached Apple for Safari search deals.

They renewed their contract with Google in 2010 which was supposed to last until 2015.

Read about it here: https://www.macrumors.com/2014/11/25/yahoo-microsoft-apple-search-engine/
https://www.macrumors.com/2014/11/25/yahoo-microsoft-apple-search-engine/
But like you said, Android is Apple's biggest competitor in Phone operating systems, which is also one of the biggest reasons why Apple did not renew their contract with Google. Microsoft has a less threat in the mobile market for Apple.
 

Erastopic

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When Apple's sees the need for Siri on OS X, they will surely add it.

But I think as of right now, the need for a personal assistant on OS X is somewhat less needed. Remember the main use of Siri on iOS and WatchOS is to set up reminders, calendar events and etc on the go without having to do it all manually which takes more time. When you are on your Mac, you most probably already have enough time to do all of that manually on your Mac or if you don't, do it on your iPhone or Apple Watch.

The somewhat "personal assistant" that is already on Mac and has been for ages, can do alot from before. Open apps, open web pages and alot more, it just requires more work to set up.

Siri is one of those features Apple will add ones they see the need for it. Who knows, maybe they will look at the statistics for Cortana on Windows 10, if it succeeds there, maybe Apple will add it in OS X 10.12.
 

mr.bee

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Hmm, I would find it strange to start talking to my computer in an open workspace or office, even in my own office.

i'm already annoyed by the 'let's discuss this at our desk' attitude when I work in an open workspace. I like silence when I'm concentrated :)

A freelancer at home, that I can understand. Are you all freelancers?
 
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simon lefisch

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But I think as of right now, the need for a personal assistant on OS X is somewhat less needed. Remember the main use of Siri on iOS and WatchOS is to set up reminders, calendar events and etc on the go without having to do it all manually which takes more time. When you are on your Mac, you most probably already have enough time to do all of that manually on your Mac or if you don't, do it on your iPhone or Apple Watch.

The somewhat "personal assistant" that is already on Mac and has been for ages, can do alot from before. Open apps, open web pages and alot more, it just requires more work to set up..
I completely agree with this. No need to have more resources be taken up by adding this feature in a laptop/desktop. iPhone/apple watch, sure. iPad, yes. Desktop computer, no way.
 
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HenryDJP

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I would think Microsoft set a great president in supporting Cortana on basically any modern machine with a microphone. There is absolutely no reason Siri wouldn't just be an OS X feature available for any Mac in the past 3-4 years.
While it's very possible that Apple will add Siri to the Mac, to me it will just be nothing more than a novelty. On a portable device voice assistants can be handy, but on a desktop or notebook computer I don't see it being used 5 minutes after the first time someone tries it.

BTW, did you mean "precedent"? I certainly hope so.
 

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This is slightly off topic, but I have never understood why Spotlight search uses Bing (Microsoft). I have heard people say it doesn't use Google because they are competition but Microsoft is also competition.

However what puzzles me the most is why the user can't choose what search engine to use in Spotlight.

I wasn't even aware of this. While I am no Microsoft fan by any stretch I have to say Bing returns some very good results. In fact it returns many things Google doesn't find.
 
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