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JohnMaldaner

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What smart plugs work well with our Home app?

I've been using the Switchbot Smart Plugs, but they are not longer available through Amazon. So, I am looking for an alternative. I need to replace one plug which has gone bad. Very simple need. This plug simply controls a lamp in the living room. Thanks for suggestions!
 
UPDATE: I did find an updated Switchbot plug and ordered it. But, if you have a favorite brand for use with HomeKit, I would still like to know what you like! Thanks.
 
Any product with a 'Works with Apple Home' logo, unless its Matter based, then you need a Home hub like an Apple TV (gen 4 or newer) or a Homepod mini.

Dont buy a product that requires a third party app. All Homekit supported products can be QR scanned and paired directly from the Apple Home app and work locally without and internet connection or account required to function.
 
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Check out Eve products. I have quite a few and love them. No account required.
Pricey but good products. In my experience the simple Homekit plugs are all about the same. And the really cheap ones are so cheap that if they do die, theyre 1/3 the cost of the 'nice' ones anyway.
 
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I bought Kasa Smart Plug Minis off Amazon. They got a great rating (26.5K reviews, 4.4 stars) and they have been rock solid for me since I got my first set.
 
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TL;DR - I join you in looking for Home-compatible smartplugs that are consistently reliable, and have not found them.

I have used iHome smartplugs…they work but occasionally go “No Response” after things like network software updates. I replaced most with WeMo smartplugs with Thread/Matter/Whatev along with some WeMo light switches. They occasionally go “No Response” from time to time. I’ve tried Kasa in the past with poor results, though today’s products might be better.

I have some Nanoleaf bulbs…pretty reliable but not 100%, more like mid-90’s%.

In truth, the only smartplugs that were and are consistently excellent were the old 1980’s X-10 devices. For chuckles, I still have these in a portion of our home. The plugs/switches and controllers all work flawlessly to this day and don’t care if my network updates or not. The plugs were divided into two types: lights, and appliances. The differences were the appliance modules accepted a bit more current, and did not offer dimming. The light modules all were dimming.
 
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TL;DR - I join you in looking for Home-compatible smartplugs that are consistently reliable, and have not found them.

I have used iHome smartplugs…they work but occasionally go “No Response” after things like network software updates. I replaced most with WeMo smartplugs with Thread/Matter/Whatev along with some WeMo light switches. They occasionally go “No Response” from time to time. I’ve tried Kasa in the past with poor results, though today’s products might be better.

I have some Nanoleaf bulbs…pretty reliable but not 100%, more like mid-90’s%.

In truth, the only smartplugs that were and are consistently excellent were the old 1980’s X-10 devices. For chuckles, I still have these in a portion of our home. The plugs/switches and controllers all work flawlessly to this day and don’t care if my network updates or not. The plugs were divided into two types: lights, and appliances. The differences were the appliance modules accepted a bit more current, and did not offer dimming. The light modules all were dimming.
Oof yah, home and Wemo were early implementations that were both known to be pretty unreliable. That said, as you eluded, your wireless network plays a big part of it, and not just if you have good signal or not.

If you want reliability, Lutron Caseta are amazing, they don’t rely on WiFi to communicate but they are much more expensive and require the Caseta hub. You will find nothing but praise about this product line and how well it works.

They don’t make smart plugs, and instead focus on lighting, dimmers, fan controls and switches.

They are very reminiscent of the x- 10 days you describe, but better :)
 
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I got a Tapo TP Link Matter certified one. It’s been working fine since I got it a week ago.

IKEA are bringing out Matter ones too.

I’m liking Matter compatible competition. My Tapo plug was far cheaper than an Eve one.
 
If you want reliability, Lutron Caseta are amazing, they don’t rely on WiFi to communicate but they are much more expensive and require the Caseta hub. You will find nothing but praise about this product line and how well it works.

They don’t make smart plugs, and instead focus on lighting, dimmers, fan controls and switches.

They are very reminiscent of the x- 10 days you describe, but better :)
I’ve looked at Lutron and as you say the reviews are all very positive. Our home, built in 1905, has all push button light switches, most of which are original and Lutron doesn’t make such a switch (though others do but not smart switches at this point). For any home automation control I need smart plugs or smart outlets. Our front porch ceiling fans have “smartness” built in and they do work well. The other 3 don’t but all have remote controls that are sufficient for our needs. We have dimming only for two sconces on either side of a fireplace wall and use the Nanoleaf bulbs to achieve that. When they’re working, thankfully most of the time, that’s about all the dimming we need in the home frankly.

The net of all this is that Lutron, regardless of cost, is likely not in our future as their products don’t align with our needs, but like you I’ve heard nothing but good things. So…still looking. Maybe the Tapo products (replacing Kasa?) by TP Link are worth another look as suggested by @actcyclist. I remain disappointed that after a couple of decades of development or more that these haven’t become commodities that “just work” but seem to still be in development with lots of idiosyncracies that depend on absolutely pure power, absolutely fast and solid networking, phases of the moon, your dog’s mood, and whatever else. Thread/Matter seems to have added more layers of things that may or may not work reliably rather than adding bulletproofness.
 
I’ve looked at Lutron and as you say the reviews are all very positive. Our home, built in 1905, has all push button light switches, most of which are original and Lutron doesn’t make such a switch (though others do but not smart switches at this point). For any home automation control I need smart plugs or smart outlets. Our front porch ceiling fans have “smartness” built in and they do work well. The other 3 don’t but all have remote controls that are sufficient for our needs. We have dimming only for two sconces on either side of a fireplace wall and use the Nanoleaf bulbs to achieve that. When they’re working, thankfully most of the time, that’s about all the dimming we need in the home frankly.

The net of all this is that Lutron, regardless of cost, is likely not in our future as their products don’t align with our needs, but like you I’ve heard nothing but good things. So…still looking. Maybe the Tapo products (replacing Kasa?) by TP Link are worth another look as suggested by @actcyclist. I remain disappointed that after a couple of decades of development or more that these haven’t become commodities that “just work” but seem to still be in development with lots of idiosyncracies that depend on absolutely pure power, absolutely fast and solid networking, phases of the moon, your dog’s mood, and whatever else. Thread/Matter seems to have added more layers of things that may or may not work reliably rather than adding bulletproofness.
You may want to do some deeper research. There are Lutron wall switches that do not require neutral wiring and should be drop in replacements for the switches you currently use.

Look into the PD-5WS-DV, it does not require a neutral wire and should be a drop in replacements for the switches annd wiring you have in place right now.

Relying on WiFi for lighting is… not great.
 
Look into the PD-5WS-DV, it does not require a neutral wire and should be a drop in replacements for the switches annd wiring you have in place right now.
Thanks for that…Lutron has much more to offer today than the last time I looked.

While your suggested switch is indeed an electrical replacement for my push button switches, in no way does it fit behind our historic switch plates built with holes for the push buttons. Yes, I could upgrade all switches including the switch plates but at significant historic downgrade. In this home, form occasionally trumps function and this is one of those situations.
 
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