I have seen posts that say both... what is the consensus? is this already pretty much a daily driver?
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so is it fast or sluggish?
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It would be good to have a release that has been more focued on improving what is in place vs adding new features. I was really impressed with the updates they announced at WWDC and feel like they could do this for a couple of years, listen to what people want to do with the system and improve it in that way.
Actually did some real work today, so had a good 5 hours straight with a variety of apps (Safari, multiple office docs across the big 3, Messages, Mail, Outlook, some meaty PDFs in Preview, Notes) using Stage Manager and it was buttery smooth the entire time. Hopefully the experience continues through subsequent betas!
Every decent software engineer on the planet will tell you there is no such thing as an operating system or app without any bugs. With all software you either haven't experienced a bug yet yet or they are waiting to pop up for any number of reasons.
This is totally true, but in my opinion it could be used as daily driver.
No early beta operating system should be used as a daily driver, especially because a lot of the frameworks and security features are incomplete. Even at companies like Microsoft, Apple and Google many execs and employees do not run the latest new operating system on their most sensitive machines until over a year after release.
I've read multiple articles where the opposite is actually the case - a lot of Apple employees are actually running prerelease versions of Mac OS precisely to help discover issues that might arise in an enterprise setting.
I would think that is true for Apple, but most companies probably would not allow it for security or compatibility reasons.
God knows what those articles are.
Pre-release macOS is obviously used on machines used for testing and development. That's as obvious as sky is blue.
But if you have ever been in web admin for very busy websites you can see the traffic from individuals in all the big 5 tech companies and many of them are using an OS version 1 or 2 years old. We even see 3 year old operating systems.
If an employee is running a new computer then they have no choice but to use the system it shipped with.
just installed beta 1 on my M2 air. no regrets (yet). & on the actual thread topic: here, it is definitely speedier than ventura. it's tanglible. speaking of which...
do you have tangible evidence for your claim about 'microsoft, apple and google'? have you personally monitored 'traffic from individuals in all the big 5 tech companies'?
facts are so much more useful than theories and opinions.
Bit gobsmacked you have to ask evidence for what is obvious and posting that evidence would require posting IP addresses and identifiers. That's irresponsible on a public forum. We even see custom builds of operating systems used in various corporations with a lot of features locked down.
Then there's Linux and cloud based operating systems used by folks at Amazon etc
you're gobsmacked someone wants evidence of a seemingly-random claim? but you swear you've seen this as you reported it, at 'microsoft, apple and google'?
either way, a fact can be substantiated in the real world, but our thoughts and opinions are just... thoughts and opinions.
here, on macrumors, people tend to dive into betas pretty quickly (hence the endless whining of 'i installed beta 1 and an app doesn't work'). fun times 🙄
I'm pretty sure Craig or Joe mentioned how Eddy Cue had all his devices updating to the latest beta. Or Craig (I think it was him) had to hide his beta software running automatically when in the car from his family. They mentioned this in Gruber's interviews I think.
For Me on M1 Pro MacBook Pro 13'' its as fast as Ventura, give or take.
It sluggish for the first hour as it indexed and got itself together. That's likely people are experiencing when they report a sluggish experience- they're posting immediately after installing it.
It sluggish for the first hour as it indexed and got itself together. That's likely people are experiencing when they report a sluggish experience- they're posting immediately after installing it.
it's a beta; in fact, the very-first one. it's expected to be 'not as good as a public release'. and you should only run it if you understand the risks...