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Minghold

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Situation: variety of intel-era iMacs currently running mucho paid-for 32bit production software at blazing speeds (i.e., Mojave from HFS+ partitions with MRT, Spotlight, notifications, and other annoying bits disabled). For obvious reasons, we cannot have these machines "upgrading", accidentally or otherwise.

Desired result: manual attempts to update the OS by going to either AppStore or About This Mac > Software Update must fail. Apple makes it very easy to click these buttons because it is trying very hard to force-obsolesce your paid-for hardware and software.

(Note: This is not a request for info on how to disable automatic updates (as that's already been taken care of), or how to disable notifications of updates (ditto). Additionally, I am not looking to lock or encrypt drives, or run revert/sandbox software.)

Tool of choice: Radio Silence, Lulu, Hands-Off, or other outbound-traffic blocker. (I like Radio Silence, as it's my kind of single-purpose utility that silently works in the background without constant irritating notifications.)

Problem: adding all of AppStore, Software Preferences, and Software Update (hidden Library/CoreServices) into Radio Silence does not prevent the unwanted offering of MacOS Catalina (or other OS) as a downloadable update in the instance of a user manually running Software Update. --It would seem that I am missing a hidden item or two somewhere. Suggestions?
 

bogdanw

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As Mojave doesn’t receive updates anymore, wouldn't be easier to disable the Software Update launch agents/daemons?

I don’t have access to Mojave right now, but I think this should do it:

Code:
sudo launchctl unload -wF /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.softwareupdated.plist

sudo launchctl unload -wF /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.softwareupdate_notify_agent.plist
 

Bigwaff

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Minghold

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What's that got to do with resolving the request in my OP?
As Mojave doesn’t receive updates anymore, wouldn't be easier to disable the Software Update launch agents/daemons?

Code:
sudo launchctl unload -wF /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.softwareupdated.plist

sudo launchctl unload -wF /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.softwareupdate_notify_agent.plist
This is cumbersome, and I suspect would be whisked away at any point a Command-Option-PR resets accumulated Terminal tweaks to default. (This is why I'd rather stick to identifying the culprit widget and chucking it into Radio Silence.)
Install a profile which disables the buttons?

In other words, amplify my work-load exponentially. No thanks. Much, much more ideal: Identify the offending system widget and strangle its ability to go to the internet by throwing it into Radio Silence. So, what's the name of the offending widget? --That's the animal we're hunting on this safari. (I doubt that the name/location of the offending widget has changed over the course of El Capitan/High Sierra/Mojave/Catalina, as the About This Mac > Software Update popup-window look & feel of the OS didn't change during the period.)
 

bogdanw

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Minghold

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Code:
sudo launchctl unload -wF /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.softwareupdated.plist

sudo launchctl unload -wF /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.softwareupdate_notify_agent.plist
OK, this seems to be doing the job, and the setting even survived a Carbon Copy Clone to a different machine. Thanks. (I assume changing "unload" to "load" reverses the procedure.)
 

Bigwaff

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OK, this seems to be doing the job, and the setting even survived a Carbon Copy Clone to a different machine. Thanks. (I assume changing "unload" to "load" reverses the procedure.)
So this survives restarts?
 

Minghold

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So this survives restarts?
Yes. Meaning: I can now idiot-proof all my Mojave/HFS+(MacOS Extended-journaled) installations running on 2012-2020 Macs, and clone to replacement machines as needed.
 
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