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kenoh

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Clearly Sony is doing something right.....


Probably stacking them high and selling them cheap to get the reference case and the headline. :)

I mean no one doubts Sony is doing well, this is a really great achievement but I will be interested to see what comes next. Canada is an unforgiving territory and Sony batteries don’t like cold weather. Equally, their weather resistance has been questioned before. I am being cheeky here of course, I am sure they knew what they were doing more than I do.
 
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r.harris1

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That’s truly great for Sony. They’ve been cleaning up on “exclusive relationships“ with various newswire orgs lately and it does, I’m sure, make for interesting headlines for the company’s fans. It certainly speaks for Sony’s marketing prowess. No other camera maker can touch Sony’s marketing approach, for sure.
 
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Clix Pix

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Just as Sony was a key photo presence at the Summer Olympics, now they are in Beijing, all set up to assist Olympics official photographers with whatever is needed with Sony gear: quick repair or replacement of a camera body or lens, loan of a lens they might not already have, etc. I'm drooling over the photo of the collection of bodies and lenses that the author has with him there!


Of course Canon and Nikon also have their own photo service areas set up as well.....
 
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Clix Pix

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Probably stacking them high and selling them cheap to get the reference case and the headline. :)

I mean no one doubts Sony is doing well, this is a really great achievement but I will be interested to see what comes next. Canada is an unforgiving territory and Sony batteries don’t like cold weather. Equally, their weather resistance has been questioned before. I am being cheeky here of course, I am sure they knew what they were doing more than I do.

Have you used a Sony with the NP-FZ100 batteries? They are much better and more robust than the earlier NP-FW50 ones. I was more than pleasantly surprised when I got the A7R IV to see how much longer lasting the FZ100 batteries are, and of course they really need to be, given that they're controlling cameras with a lot going on inside electronically. Used to be when I went out on an excursion I took three of the FW50 batteries; nowadays two FZ100s will do me just fine with plenty of juice still left over, and that's even with occasional burst shooting from time to time.

I, too, have seen comments about weather resistance, and have to admit that I haven't really put my camera bodies to the test, I don't go shooting when it's actively snowing or raining, or venture forth in bitterly cold temperatures, but apparently the A1 has overcome some of the issues that were inherent with earlier models. I imagine that most photojournalists would be using the A1 and maybe the A9 II as opposed to other models these days.
 

kenoh

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Have you used a Sony with the NP-FZ100 batteries? They are much better and more robust than the earlier NP-FW50 ones. I was more than pleasantly surprised when I got the A7R IV to see how much longer lasting the FZ100 batteries are, and of course they really need to be, given that they're controlling cameras with a lot going on inside electronically. Used to be when I went out on an excursion I took three of the FW50 batteries; nowadays two FZ100s will do me just fine with plenty of juice still left over, and that's even with occasional burst shooting from time to time.

I, too, have seen comments about weather resistance, and have to admit that I haven't really put my camera bodies to the test, I don't go shooting when it's actively snowing or raining, or venture forth in bitterly cold temperatures, but apparently the A1 has overcome some of the issues that were inherent with earlier models. I imagine that most photojournalists would be using the A1 and maybe the A9 II as opposed to other models these days.

Yes I have used them with the Z type batteries. While better, they are still problematic and weather resistance is important here in Scotland where it rains some 216 days of the year :)
 

Clix Pix

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One thing I am pretty adamant about and I'm aware some people aren't, is using only the batteries manufactured by the camera manufacturer rather than buying third-party chargers and batteries. Sure, it costs more, as it seems that the camera guys always want to charge more for their batteries than third parties, but to me it's definitely worth it.

Yes, I do not envy you living in Scotland with the kind of weather conditions you frequently experience! It's a beautiful, beautiful country, though, so I guess this is part of the price you pay.....
 
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Darmok N Jalad

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I dunno, it’s nothing against the brand’s capabilities, but more about Sony cutting a deal for the exclusivity. It’s like all those PC commercials that end with the “Intel Inside” jingle. Intel helped pay for that PC maker’s commercial and airtime in exchange. PC maker gets to advertise for less, and they just have play up Intel when they do it. Whether Intel actually is the best, or even if they are that OEM’s preferred CPU provider, is irrelevant—the goal is to make the 2 companies connected in the consumer’s mind, where you can’t have one without the other.
 
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mollyc

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is the implication that other camera companies are doing something wrong?
 

Clix Pix

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I dunno, it’s nothing against the brand’s capabilities, but more about Sony cutting a deal for the exclusivity. It’s like all those PC commercials that end with the “Intel Inside” jingle. Intel helped pay for that PC maker’s commercial and airtime in exchange. PC maker gets to advertise for less, and they just have play up Intel when they do it. Whether Intel actually is the best, or even if they are that OEM’s preferred CPU provider, is irrelevant—the goal is to make the 2 companies connected in the consumer’s mind, where you can’t have one without the other.
Back lo these many, many moons ago in my Windows days when I was still buying machines with that OS, one of the first things I'd do when getting the machine home was to peel off that stupid "Intel Inside" sticker. Do they still put that on Windows machines even today? Ugh! One of the things I immediately appreciated about my first Mac back in 2005 was that it didn't have a bunch of "trial" software in it and crappy junk software that I'd have to immediately delete -- everything that Apple bundled with their machines was actually USEFUL.

Since I don't watch much TV I was unaware that there is also an "Intel Inside" jingle. Huh..... Bet I haven't missed much!

I agree that of course Sony, a large corporation, is very skilled at handling marketing and promotions for their various products, which include everything from cameras and lenses to actual full-length motion pictures and music production.... Of course it doesn't necessarily make their product(s) "the best," but they definitely have been making it a point to create quality products. In addition, they undoubtedly have been careful about hiring people who are very, very good at getting those items out front-and-center so that people are aware of them.

This works especially well in a world where a large percentage of households in the US and other countries watch a lot of television..... Some homes have one or more TVs blaring away all day and all evening long whether or not anyone is actually watching. For Sony or any other company, putting together a good advertising campaign and producing good commercials for broadcast and getting them on various networks is undoubtedly not cheap but in the end the hope and expectation is that this will pay off handsomely with consumers being attracted to the product and purchasing it. Not only is it effective if indeed consumers who have seen the advert(s) do rush out to buy that product, but also if they talk about it around the water cooler and in the break room at work (well, did back in the days when everyone was actually at work in the office), show it off online and in person to their family, friends and neighbors as well. Word-of-mouth is another effective marketing tool.

The first step is to attract the potential customer's attention. The next step is for him or her to actually try out the product and see if it is something which works for them, fits into their lifestyle, their needs, their budget.... And then when it does, word-of-mouth enthusiastic comments from actual users spreads, too, and sales increase, notice from others increases, and so on....
 
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