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goodbye_harmony

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Looking to replace my 2013 trashcan

I will be going for either the 8 or 12 core: which do the panel think is best? 12 corse seems slower but in multicore faster. Bit confused. 2 LG Ultfine 5k displays on 580

Am I stuck with the stock drive options? Is the boot drive user replacable? It looks proprietary

Finally does anyone know if any PCIe USB 3,2 cards work with the 7,1 Mac Pro?

Cheers
 
Have you researched any of this yourself at all?

The 12 core will be faster at virtually every task. No, you can't easily upgrade the stock boot drive - get what you think you need up-front. Finally, lots of cards should eventually be available and found to work, but these are still early days.
 
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I'll be perfectly honest I din't think a new Mac Pro was an option and suddenly it has thanks to a windfall.

I now understand better, but having casually read news items on MR 'You can replace the drive easily but need to call apple' I was running possibilities in my head before getting stuck in

I now realise it's not that simple.

I'm trying to work out how best to do it: Previously with Mac Pros I bought a decent processor and minimum everything else, then we had the trashcan which made it more difficult.

Consider me chastised and I am now trawling. To be fair, to someone not intimately following this machine from the beginning, it's a bit opaque in places. Astounded it only has 4 TB ports, for instance

Cheers
 
Thunderbolt, sorry. I have 2xLG ultra fine monitors which mean 2 will be taken already. It's pretty much got the same stock ports as a 2018 Mac mini...
But you have the option to get an expansion card ... if you needed more ports you could always go that route.


For example, see above. Not to mention your graphics card should have thunderbolt 3 ports too...
 
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But you have the option to get an expansion card ... if you needed more ports you could always go that route.




For example, see above. Not to mention your graphics card should have thunderbolt 3 ports too...



That's what I'm trying to find out, for instance from what I can tell, that card looks like it's only for Gigabyte boards.

From my reading of support docs, the 580 MPX doesn't seem to, no

Cheers for your help, it is appreciated
 
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Seems to me that the MPX module has four thunderbolt 3 ports and one HDMI port. Without such ports directly on the GPU, your monitors (or anything else) would have to pass through the CPU to get to the GPU ... which would be terrible for performance bottlenecking.

As for that specific expansion card, you might be right! That was just the first one I found though. I'm sure there are others that work.
 
Looking to replace my 2013 trashcan

I will be going for either the 8 or 12 core: which do the panel think is best? 12 corse seems slower but in multicore faster. Bit confused. 2 LG Ultfine 5k displays on 580

Am I stuck with the stock drive options? Is the boot drive user replacable? It looks proprietary

Finally does anyone know if any PCIe USB 3,2 cards work with the 7,1 Mac Pro?

Cheers
It appears you're stuck with the drive that ships with the system. See this thread:

Will Apple upgrade the 256 GB boot drive?

OP states Apple won't do it:

I just spoke with Apple and the boot "drive" is not upgradeable via an Apple service visit. My only option is to return the Mac Pro during the 14-day return period and purchase the configuration that I want.

It appears Apple finally provided Mac users with an upgradable computer and is doing everything possible to prevent them from doing that.
 
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Seems to me that the MPX module has four thunderbolt 3 ports and one HDMI port. Without such ports directly on the GPU, your monitors (or anything else) would have to pass through the CPU to get to the GPU ... which would be terrible for performance bottlenecking.

As for that specific expansion card, you might be right! That was just the first one I found though. I'm sure there are others that work.

Yeah that's on the Vega. On the 580 it routes through the system Thunderbolt ports. Instructions to connect one to the back, and one to top...

Cheers
 
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