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Split View and Slide Over Petition !!
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Yeah I will install the beta just to leave feedback that I want them back. For my large iPad the changes will probably be okay since I use keyboard and mouse on it anyway (although it kind of defeats the purpose of an iPad over a Mac), but for my iPad Mini it for sure is a downgrade to the touch experience.
Since Apple is deciding to make it more cumbersome to reply to a message using touch on my iPad than to just use my phone I realise I won’t have much use for iMessage/SMS going to my iPads.
So I might as well ditch my iPhone and iPad Mini for a Samsung Fold, it was things like the ability to reply to messages from my other devices that made me cancel the Fold 7 I had on order but with the convenient ways of doing so being removed the equation changes.
Trying to decide if I wait for the public beta or just make the switch now and start moving away from giving Apple money with other things as well.
So I might as well ditch my iPhone and iPad Mini for a Samsung Fold, it was things like the ability to reply to messages from my other devices that made me cancel the Fold 7 I had on order but with the convenient ways of doing so being removed the equation changes.
Trying to decide if I wait for the public beta or just make the switch now and start moving away from giving Apple money with other things as well.
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It’s really not that dramatic. Create an iMessage window in the same size as slide over. Swipe up and hold for Exposé. Tap iMessage. Reply. If you are using a full screen app then just tap app to put iMessage in the background.
IMHO, more flexible than SlideOver because if you used multiple apps in slideover, you still had to swipe up to cycle through the one you want. In Windowed mode, I can have as many as I want and quickly switch to it with Exposé.
Yeah that might work well, I haven’t tried the beta yet. But from what I’ve heard from the people testing it is that they only allow up to 13 windows open before it starts closing them. It kind of introduces having to fully close apps like on more legacy systems because once you reach the limit the first one you opened will be closed instead.
And since they use a limit like that the question becomes if having them open means they aren’t put to sleep the same way as before meaning the battery life will suffer.
Great for my iPad Pro with MKB but not so great for my iPad Mini.
Achappy, but here’s the problem with that. What used to be two gestures to set up and one gesture to use has turned into 6 gestures to set up and 2 to use. Plus, if you want the mini app to open full screen by itself later, it adds even more steps to make it full-screen (completely undoing the work to make it mini in the first place).
I find it’s now easier to Command+Tab to messages or music instead of trying to mimic SlideOver and just leave my iPad in fullscreen mode only. They finally fixed the swipe between apps functionality in the new window manager, so at least it’s somewhat usable now, but this system honestly feels like they wanted to neuter iPad multitasking to boost Mac sales. They brought the worst of Mac multitasking to iPad, completely missing the point that many who wanted the iPad to be more Mac-like were talking about app availability and not system usability. Maybe Craig is just being spiteful?
iPad multitasking on iPadOS 18, though limited by snappy windows, was actually easier to set up than the Mac-like windows now. The preset sizes made it super easy to make multiple apps the same size without the mental gymnastics of picking apps in a specific order to lay them out correctly. After bringing up the dock, one fluid gesture easily differentiated between Split View or SlideOver. And for the SlideOver apps, it was one gesture to slide it in or slide it out. Even switching between them was easy since it mimicked iPhone multitasking.
But now, multitasking feels like an exercise of productivity vs. actually being productive. Because it takes more time to set up apps to behave the way I want them to (which I can only loosely mimic, and rather poorly at that), I end up spending more time trying to build a productive setup of apps instead of automatically having quick and easy multitasking that actually is productive. It’s all the fun of building a fancy Notion setup without getting any value from it because it’s too complicated and you end up dumping everything into Apple Notes instead.
So yes, definitely add my voice of opposition to the list. I’ll give Beta 4 an honest try this week, but my iPad’s going back to 18 while it still can.
I find it’s now easier to Command+Tab to messages or music instead of trying to mimic SlideOver and just leave my iPad in fullscreen mode only. They finally fixed the swipe between apps functionality in the new window manager, so at least it’s somewhat usable now, but this system honestly feels like they wanted to neuter iPad multitasking to boost Mac sales. They brought the worst of Mac multitasking to iPad, completely missing the point that many who wanted the iPad to be more Mac-like were talking about app availability and not system usability. Maybe Craig is just being spiteful?
iPad multitasking on iPadOS 18, though limited by snappy windows, was actually easier to set up than the Mac-like windows now. The preset sizes made it super easy to make multiple apps the same size without the mental gymnastics of picking apps in a specific order to lay them out correctly. After bringing up the dock, one fluid gesture easily differentiated between Split View or SlideOver. And for the SlideOver apps, it was one gesture to slide it in or slide it out. Even switching between them was easy since it mimicked iPhone multitasking.
But now, multitasking feels like an exercise of productivity vs. actually being productive. Because it takes more time to set up apps to behave the way I want them to (which I can only loosely mimic, and rather poorly at that), I end up spending more time trying to build a productive setup of apps instead of automatically having quick and easy multitasking that actually is productive. It’s all the fun of building a fancy Notion setup without getting any value from it because it’s too complicated and you end up dumping everything into Apple Notes instead.
So yes, definitely add my voice of opposition to the list. I’ll give Beta 4 an honest try this week, but my iPad’s going back to 18 while it still can.