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G5Man provides a preview of upcoming features from Jaguar, to be demoed at WWDC:


One valid criticism of OS 9 spring-loaded folders is that they present moving targets that can be confusing to novices and distracting to experienced users. Apple is implementing a more elegant user-proposed solution that will be demoed during Steve Jobs keynote at WWDC on May 6, 2002. The enclosed screenshot shows a contextual-menu driven method using multi-column windows that already exist in OS X.

In this particular screenshot the PDF file name 'memo' is dragged from the desktop onto the Finder icon in the dock (while holding the option key to make a copy). At point of contact a multi-column contextual window appears showing the contents of the first column (toolbar icons also show in the first column to shorten the dragging distance and circumvent inadvertent icon displacement). The next drag takes place on top of the 'Documents-G4' drive icon which then reveals its contents in the second column (and so on, so forth). When the mouse button is released (or clicked) on top of the 'Hemisphere International' folder, the copy process initiates and the contextual window disappears.

Also note that when a triangle in the dock is colored green it indicates that the application is foremost. Green-colored triangles in a window indicates that a folder has file contents (gray means the folder is empty).
 
wow, this looks promising to me.

one thing that might cause problems is the dock magnifying... just making it a bit more annoying to drag right over the particular icon..

but really not that big a deal. should be good. let's just hope that mofo is released sooner rather than later and that the "preview" at wwdc also announces a definitive date of availability..
 
Nice, but still, I like 9.2 better. No audio applications for OSX. I will do the jump by the end of the year mayyyyyyyyyyybe.

Do you like my new avatar? I had to write a lot to be able to have one:D
 
Originally posted by mymemory
Nice, but still, I like 9.2 better. No audio applications for OSX. I will do the jump by the end of the year mayyyyyyyyyyybe.

Do you like my new avatar? I had to write a lot to be able to have one:D
SoundStudio is now available for Mac OS X.
 
Peak DV is also out for osx.

This new set up sounds very interesting. I hope that we do hear of a release date soon.
 
Interesting.

I wonder what the apple icon to the left of the trash can is? A link to Apple's web site?

As for sound recording software, there is Sound Studio and Amadeus. I tried out Sound Studio briefly, but my major gripe is there only seems to be a left and right channel/track. Once I can find some software which supports multiple track, then I will invest in that software. I'm not even looking for anything horribly complicated, just something that can record multiple tracks, and then blend them together.
 
Originally posted by edenwaith

I wonder what the apple icon to the left of the trash can is? A link to Apple's web site?

there's a good chance it's just an icon he's given to a particular folder/drive...

i have the g4 imac as an icon for one of my drives and the quicksilver for the other.
 
The implementation of spring-loaded folders looks somewhat promising (although of course we won't know till we get our hands on it).

What seriously gives me pause for concern is this bit with the green flippy arrows. 1) I hate green. If Apple is going to start introducing colors as important signals in the OS, at least give us the choice of customizing what those colors are. #2) Is this at all compatible with the Graphite scheme?

C'mon Apple, less illogical eye-candy and more solid performance!
 
Ok, let me recapitulate.

There is not good PRO-AUDIO software:)

I include midi by the way. The good thing about midi is that is a language so simple that with a PowerMac 200 MHz you are running fine.

I think that most of the people (Motu, Digidesing, etc) are very concern about digital distortion.
 
yeah right

I'll believe that screenshot when I see it in a keynote, or on my own computer. Dock menus don't have titlebars, they are translucent, and cascade out. Finder windows have scrollbars at the bottom, and green indicators for whether or not a folder has anything in it or not? I think not. Column view is screaming for "springiness," but I say this is a hoax and spring loaded folders will not be implemented in this fashion. Come on.
 
Re: yeah right

Originally posted by jg3
I'll believe that screenshot when I see it in a keynote, or on my own computer. Dock menus don't have titlebars, they are translucent, and cascade out. Finder windows have scrollbars at the bottom, and green indicators for whether or not a folder has anything in it or not? I think not. Column view is screaming for "springiness," but I say this is a hoax and spring loaded folders will not be implemented in this fashion. Come on.

I think you are correct... probably is fake...

pulled from the front page... we'll see in a few days.

arn
 
Fake or not?

Is the screenshot a fake? It looks like someone just copied a standard folder window.

Why did I think this? The buttons. Apple would never include close buttons on their spring-loaded folders, because you would be occupied houlding your mouse button down to drag the file!

The colors? Blah.
 
Re: yeah right

Originally posted by jg3
I'll believe that screenshot when I see it in a keynote, or on my own computer. Dock menus don't have titlebars, they are translucent, and cascade out. Finder windows have scrollbars at the bottom, and green indicators for whether or not a folder has anything in it or not? I think not. Column view is screaming for "springiness," but I say this is a hoax and spring loaded folders will not be implemented in this fashion. Come on.

There's no reason to believe its a fake or real. Its a rumor, so it has to be treated with a little bit of care. And its not necessarily correct to make any asumptions about OSX.2, there can be any number of changes that will be incorporated that aren't in the current version. So I wouldn't discount the whole thing just because it doesn't look exactly like what we have now. I'm only doubting it a little because there is no definitive proof that its real, just like any other rumor that comes along.
 
Re: Re: yeah right

Originally posted by dukestreet
I'm only doubting it a little because there is no definitive proof that its real, just like any other rumor that comes along.

true dat duke.

like with any particular rumor, it's just a rumor until we see it. and thus, any color scheme, or the entire thing, may never end up in any version of mac os.

but it's fun to talk about in the mean time.
 
Seems to me...

...that it would be impossible to get to the close buttons on that while holding down the mouse button to keep the folder, err menu, open. Next time, try actually going to some trouble on the fake. (If this isn't a fake I will be seriously pissed at Apple).
 
1. Why are there not arrows next to Home, Apps, Docs etc?
2. What happens if you want to go more than 4 folders deep? There is not choice but to make the columns move.
3. Looks dodgy to me.
 
Originally posted by Beej
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2. What happens if you want to go more than 4 folders deep? There is not choice but to make the columns move...
The columns move in column view now anyway so it wouldn't really matter if they did move in springloaded folders..but the picture is sorta dodgy anyway so yeah...
 
Looks not true to me, atleast, I hope it is not like this!

I really hope its the same as OS9, but maybe with some cool stretching out feature!

I hate those Green ARROWS!

The idea of OSX is that it doesn't matter what Apps are open (according to the Power of X Demo)

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