MP 7,1 SSD OEM vs Aftermarket

[LEOMODE]

It looks like 7,1 OEM SSD speed maxes at 3000mb/s, compared to aftermarket using PCIE which can hit 6000mb/s.

What would be the tangible difference you will see in this speed difference? Would it open all apps faster, load faster and transfer/import/export as twice as fast?

 

[flowrider]

I just ran a couple of speed tests:

OEM SSD:

970 Pro:

Not a lot of difference. The 970 is mounted on a Highpoint 7103 (no RAID). I don't use the OEM SSD because I want to have as little to do with the T2 as possible.

Lou

 

[LEOMODE]

Thanks for your test, but I was mainly pointing to below Youtube where it says 6000mb/s. So I was curious on apple SSD vs aftermarket SSD. And why is your reason for avoiding OEM SSD? Limitation in future mods?

 

[flowrider]

^^^^As I posted - I want to have as little to do with the T2 chip as possible.

The video you posted is getting the speeds you specified, but that's with a RAID setup. As I posted above, I am not using a RAID.

Lou

 

[LEOMODE]

^^^^As I posted - I want to have as little to do with the T2 chip as possible.

The video you posted is getting the speeds you specified, but that's with a RAID setup. As I posted above, I am not using a RAID.

Lou

Oh gotcha...Didn't notice that was a RAID setup! So if it wasn't a RAID it could just be at 3gbps like the Apple OEM SSD?

I am almost done with speccing up my Mac Pro for purchase, but I wasn't sure if it was better to just buy 1TB or 2TB SSD and use external drive for third-party. I do have a lot of 3.5" HDD and 2.5" SSD laying around but I completely want to get out of that format now as the speed is too slow.

I guess the only possible way for me is to just get the NVME or anything using PCIE using RAID.

 

[flowrider]

^^^^I specced my machine with a 1TB SSD, now I'm sorry I did. I should have just left it at the stock 256GB, because, I do not use it at all. The NcMP is so versatile - I have Ten SSDs in mine. Three 2½" on a Sonnet J3i, Five NVME and One AHCI SSDs on Syba Crest and Highpoint PCIe cards, and the unused Apple SSD.

Lou

 

[LEOMODE]

^^^^I specced my machine with a 1TB SSD, now I'm sorry I did. I should have just left it at the stock 256GB, because, I do not use it at all. The NcMP is so versatile - I have Ten SSDs in mine. Three 2½" on a Sonnet J3i, Five NVME and One AHCI SSDs on Syba Crest and Highpoint PCIe cards, and the unused Apple SSD.

Lou

Gotcha. Two final questions then:

1) Say I got 256GB SSD. Can I boot main Mac OS for Mac Pro as well as other OS's too (e.g. Catalina, Big Sur, since you cannot use Mojave on 7,1 as well as Boot Camp partition) without using 256GB OEM SSD? Meaning the one that comes with my Mac Pro can just not be used without any issue?

2) If I were to just get 8TB OEM SSD, can I make a separate partition and use that as a Time Machine too? If I get an 8TB Apple OEM SSD, my ultimate goal is to eliminate any extra SSD other than the T2 chip OEM SSD and handle everything including Mac OS's, Windows 10, Time Machine, as well as any other backup media/storage. In that case, I can just get rid of all of my storages that I have and enjoy 3000mb/s speed. I don't use any more than 4-5TB anyway.

 

[flowrider]

^^^^I don't use Time Machine, Boot Camp or Windoz. Don't see why any of your scenarios wouldn't work. However, What if the Stock SSD goes south? No BackUp❓I have so many SSDs due to redundancy. If I lose a drive, no problem?

When Big Sur is released I have two SSDs already reserved, in addition to the two already running Catalina.

Lou

 

[choreo]

My Mac Pro just came in Thursday and I am waiting on all my 3rd party pieces to arrive.

One thing on the way is this Sonnet M.2 NVMe PCI board along with 4 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus drives. It claims 11,700 MB/s in RAID 0 (see a 1 minute into this video:

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I will post my results when I get it up and running.

Backup will be to an 8TB Internal hard drive in a Sonnet J31 via CCC, a 14TB Time Machine hard drive in the Sonnet J3i and BackBlaze. Apple 1TB SSD will be backed up to Samsung 1TB SSD in Sonnet J3i via CCC, the 14TB Time Machine hard drive in the Sonnet J3i and BackBlaze.