Universal Starting iCloud Photos deletes your pictures!?

[toke lahti]

I haven't found detailed info of what will happen.
"iOS will delete synced photos and videos from iPad."

Are they ALL copied to iCloud before deleting?

Or only those that had not been synced with "Finder"?
(The iPad to switch to iCloud Photos has been paired to mac with osX 10.11., so iTunes.)
About one third of the photos and videos of the iPad, 20k alltogether, are not from Apple's cameras, so they have been synced with iTunes.
(Picture for the illustration is from anothe ipad, because of the language.)

Will there be same kind of question, when iCloud Photos is clicked in El Capitan?

What happens to pictures tranferred via Photostream?

I have to wonder why this is so hard to Apple to explain these?
Will it get bad rep about these things, so they are sweeped under the phone support?
Is this the reason Apple is #1 in GUI, because they are so terrible with words? 😆

 

[usagora]

All it's saying is that photos on your device that were synced from iTunes will be removed from your device (not your Mac) and replaced with photos synced from iCloud.

It's similar to when you sync your iPhone with one Mac, then try to sync with another - all media synced to your phone from the other Mac will be removed from your phone and replaced with the media from the current Mac you're syncing to. You can't sync to two Macs at once. Similarly, you can't sync to iTunes photos and iCloud photos at the same time.

 

[question time]

I just got an email from iCloud (I hope it's them) saying "In 30 days, the photos and videos stored in iCloud will be deleted and iCloud Photos will be turned off on all your devices." Would anyone know why?

 

[TiggrToo]

I just got an email from iCloud (I hope it's them) saying "In 30 days, the photos and videos stored in iCloud will be deleted and iCloud Photos will be turned off on all your devices." Would anyone know why?

You'll get that message if you turn off iCloud photos.

 

[question time]

You'll get that message if you turn off iCloud photos.

I didn't even know I did this. So... now to get it back on. I have gone into settings, and I end up here.

Do I click on this 'undo disable and delete' to keep the photos and stop the deletion process taking place? Thanks for your help.

 

[toke lahti]

All it's saying is that photos on your device that were synced from iTunes will be removed from your device (not your Mac) and replaced with photos synced from iCloud.

It's similar to when you sync your iPhone with one Mac, then try to sync with another - all media synced to your phone from the other Mac will be removed from your phone and replaced with the media from the current Mac you're syncing to. You can't sync to two Macs at once. Similarly, you can't sync to iTunes photos and iCloud photos at the same time.

I presume those deleted pics won't even be in the trash for the next 30 days?
I don't see any technical reason why there can't be "local pictures" in ipad in addition to those mirrored from iCloud.

According to Image Capture, there were 19790 items in ipad. It had been synced with mac's Photos which had a lot of pics from Canon camera. So they should have been in ipad as well. There was Photostream on and it created a lot of duplicates, but I guess that Image capture sorted duplicates out, since there are none in a folder where pics were transferred.
Maybe pics from Photostream were regarded as "from iCloud" and therefore "not actual local pics in ipad" and that's why Image Capture didn't see them?

Maybe it's my skills in English, but I still don't get this "Photos Synced from Finder will be Removed".
Removed WHEN?
BEFORE or AFTER they are transferred to iCloud?

Does it mean that if a pic "locally in ipad" originally came from mac (via syncing with Finder or iTunes or Photos) will be deleted and not transferred to iCloud (when iCloud is set ON)?
Or does it mean that they are removed from ipad AFTER they are transferred to iCloud.
Some agent looks every pic and if thre's metadata that it was originated from this device or came through Photostream, they are tranferred to iCloud and others are not?

 

[question time]

I didn't even know I did this. So... now to get it back on. I have gone into settings, and I end up here.

Do I click on this 'undo disable and delete' to keep the photos and stop the deletion process taking place? Thanks for your help.

Bump. Does anyone know if pressing this solves my issues and would cancel the the process of iCloud deleting all my photos? Thanks.

 

[toke lahti]

I've been too busy to write an update.

It took almost 2 days for iCloud to sync all it wanted to iCloud and back.
And pics from Canon were missing.

So ipcs do have some sort of flag or metadata in ipad, which tells the process where the pics are originated from.
Sadly Pics in ipad does not tell this or you can't see which pics belong to which category ("will be saved in iCloud" or "will be deleted if you click 'enable'"...)

So these pics (c. 2000 pics) has to be feeded to iCloud manually.

What I'm wondering now is,
If macos's Pictures will behave the same?
Those 2000 canon pics will be deleted from Pictures (in the mac), if iCloud enabled?