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caffeeneaddict

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Feb 23, 2007
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ok sorry but i have to get this out. Everyone who is waiting for santa rosa, leopard, iLife, etc. If you really want a mac then just buy a mac. There will always be better software and hardware out there. That is how our society works, always trying to better itself. So really buy a mac if you actually want one. Please add if you agree with me!:apple: :apple: :apple:
 
Sorry dude but these kind of threads usually (ok, always) get wastelanded. Just let it slide, even if people waiting read this post they would probably start their own thread anyway asking if it is worth it to wait. That is something you cannot avoid in this life... well at least here on MacRumors.
 
GUESS WHAT. I want a macbook, but I am waiting, because I have the best macbook configurable right now, and um...Im waiting for santa rosa
 
I really want a Mac.

But I need Keynote to be able to animate things. I've asked around, and the opinion of experienced keynote users is that no, the current version of Keynote can not do what I want, but the next - probably using Core Animation - will. That means it will need Leopard. That means I have to wait. Currently, XP+Powerpoint does the job I need that Keynote+Tiger can not.

Also - I need CS3. I need Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash, Dreamweaver etc, natively running on Intel hardware (I'm not editing 20, 30, 60 Megpixels images through Rosetta, nor am I going to invest in software that will be redundent in a few months and require an expensive upgrade). That's still not actually available, and isn't going to be for several months.

Don't mean to be rude - but it's quite presumptious of you to assume you understand the reasoning and justification behind peoples decisions to delay purchasing and think you know better then them or indeed myself in this case as to when or why we should spend our hard earned cash.

I've been waiting for a SR MBP, because the release of that I was hoping would tie in perfectly with the release of Leopard, the new version of Keynote and native productivity applications being widely available.

Now, the time when I was going to get that machine, Leopard will not be available, thus the new version fo Keynote will not be available, thus I will not be able to give the types of presenations that I regularly do on my current PC laptop, thus I can not switch. It's painfull, but it's the fundamental truth of my personal situation regarding computer and software purchasing decisions - a delay to leopard forces a delay on my switch- who are you to tell me that I'm wrong?

DOug
 
caffeeneaddict said:
ok sorry but i have to get this out. Everyone who is waiting for santa rosa, leopard, iLife, etc. If you really want a mac then just buy a mac. There will always be better software and hardware out there. That is how our society works, always trying to better itself. So really buy a mac if you actually want one. Please add if you agree with me!:apple: :apple: :apple:
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I agree whole heartily with your statement with only on caveat, replace want with need.

I am tired of people B!tching & Moaning for Apple to do "x" because "they" need it.
 
I agree with the OP. Those who wait for SR are going to then wish they waited for the early 2008 machines that will have a FSB of over 1Ghz etc. Then will come more cores in the consumer machines. Solid state drives. There will always be something just over the hill. The current machines are fantastic for Tiger, Leopard and well beyond.
 
Or alternatively the OP could just not read those threads that seem to annoy him/her so much...
 
mustard said:
I am tired of people B!tching & Moaning for Apple to do "x" because "they" need it.
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Yeah, people shouldn't want computers that do what they need. How stupid is that? I mean, it's not like they're paying for them or anything.

Seriously, read what you posted and realise how stupid it is. Why would anyone buy a computer that doesn't do what they need it to do?
 
Jarcrew said:
Hang on... if you've got the best MacBook on the market, do you mind me asking why on earth you want another one?
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Proberly for the same reason i want a new mac mini. More than 3GB ram, and a better graphics card. I want 4-6 GB of ram in my mini but the current mini chipset only supports 3GB witch is great but i hate odd numbers and 2x 2GB will bring me back to dual channel. The GMA X3000 looks pretty great of a upgrade, right now i can play age of empires 3(mac) @ 1400x900 default settings and its pretty smooth but i would love to be able to turn up the graphics effects past medium and get smoother frame rates in Rollercoaster tycoon and be able to play Doom 3. And no, no iMac's i like the mini form factor and i have some money together to get the 23 inch Apple display but im hoping the next mini has dual link dvi so i can get the 30 inch display. Remember the mini holds its own very well ageist yesterdays powermacs and performance per watt kills the mac pro as it consumes almost equal power to a powered down macpro. For me i really cant wait for a good update to the mini, samsung have just lanced a 200GB 7200 notebook drive that makes the mini's one fault a none issue and i can see bigger drives at that speed being a lot more common soon.

Santa Rossa = New mac mini
Leopard = perhaps a new feature and more speed but im not holding out, at its rate it becomes a birthday present.
 
(sorry i'm italian, i am not able to talk a brilliant english)
i want a macbook, and i want it now
BUT (god help me)
but I will wait another week, trying to understand if in June they will upgrade machines.
because if i buy it now, i would risk to have an almost-old machine, my computer could "die" (sorry, i'm italian) before.
so i think.
core 2 duo---> computer old in 4 years
santa rosa ---> computer old in 6 years.
and this for a month of waiting...
with old i mean that isn't able to work as all the other machines. (sorry i'm italian :( )

i hope someone very clever had understood...
 
mongrel cat said:
core 2 duo---> computer old in 4 years
santa rosa ---> computer old in 6 years.
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computers never slow down. the chips don't say "hey im 3 years old now, time to kick back and relax". they still do processes just as fast as they did when they were first purchased. You don't know that SR will bring 50% more performance (as you claim).

and you'll probably buy a new computer within 4 years anyway, so it won't really matter that much.
 
I already have two Macs, but am seriously looking forward to Santa Rosa since I can use that opportunity to replace my power hungry Dell with something more economical and powerful from Apple.

The main think I'm hoping for is eSATA support for the next mini.

B
 
Mommy, Mommy I want that!!! - Tamper Tantrum

Manic Mouse said:
Yeah, people shouldn't want computers that do what they need. How stupid is that? I mean, it's not like they're paying for them or anything.

Seriously, read what you posted and realise how stupid it is. Why would anyone buy a computer that doesn't do what they need it to do?
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The point why was why complain if you WANT something, they complainers sound like addicts trying to get a fix or immature children - take your pick.

If it is a want and you could go with out aka wait then due so, I understand disappointment but the incessant complaining of most is just ridiculous.
 
I am personally waiting for a new MBP because it is currently becoming outdated with an old video card and seems to be alittle overpriced right now for what it does.

Whether the next hardware upgrade comes with Santa Rosa (which I hope it does) or not, that is when I will be buying.
 
Manic Mouse said:
Yeah, people shouldn't want computers that do what they need. How stupid is that? I mean, it's not like they're paying for them or anything.

Seriously, read what you posted and realise how stupid it is. Why would anyone buy a computer that doesn't do what they need it to do?
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Because most people are asking for user specific hardware that the mass majority does not need or want to pay for.

i have heard so many people say: I want a quad laptop with 4 gb memory standard and a 1000$ graphics card and 4 dvi out and touch screen hi res display

or i want to spend 500$ on a mac mini which is currently the worst computer in the lineup, but i want it to be able to support 6gb of memory have quad dvi, esata a 500gb hard drive a blue ray burner and have a seperate graphics card

it is understandable to want reasonable things but apple will NOT put something in a computer because one person wants it.

the majority of people waiting for the next big upgrade will be very dissappointed when apple doesn't do what they want then come back here and complain about it

and for all those people still running G3's, waiting is just plain stupid. future proofing your machine is not a good reason because they are wicked fast now and probably wont get much better. please you are running a 10 year old computer!

and people do not have to wait for leopard to buy a new computer, it will work on current machines!!

that is all i have to say,
 
everyone has reasons for waiting. no one should tell what and what not to do. i decided not to wait and ordered a mbp yesterday. i have a freelance design project coming up that will almost pay for the entire thing, so for me it's worth buying. up until now i've only had a dell pc at home and i don't want to use my mac at work.

if you can afford to wait, i highly recommend it especially since most products are nearing the end of their cycle. it will be nice knowing in a couple years when i upgrade again, i can wait until right after new products are released. :)
 
Oh don't you realize that a lot of MR members are more interested in playing the "well this update suchs, I'm waiting for the next" game then they are in actually buying a mac?

So many people are scared to pull the damn trigger because they have this irrational fear that if they don't have the absolute latest and greatest that somewhere they mac just won't cut it. So they seem to choose nothing at all.
 
dornoforpyros said:
Oh don't you realize that a lot of MR members are more interested in playing the "well this update suchs, I'm waiting for the next" game then they are in actually buying a mac?

So many people are scared to pull the damn trigger because they have this irrational fear that if they don't have the absolute latest and greatest that somewhere they mac just won't cut it. So they seem to choose nothing at all.
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No, It's a value proposition. I see that I can get a lot more value by waiting a month or so. I'll keep that computer for 4 years or so, then pass it down to a friend and buy the latest and greatest for myself. If I buy what's out now, which is 18 months old, it will need to be replaced much sooner.

When the C2D MBPs came out I saw that as a minor upgrade. Nothing really changed other than the processor. The next MBP upgrade will introduce significant new features, hence more value.
 
oh you're just jealous because you want to buy and we're gonna have the newer machine!! bwahahahahahahahaha:) bwahahahaha
 
mustard said:
The point why was why complain if you WANT something, they complainers sound like addicts trying to get a fix or immature children - take your pick.
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Or, the third and real option: They are consumers who only care about what they need. And rightly so. They aren't buying their Mac for anyone else they're buying it for themselves. If a company's trying to sell you a computer that doesn't have something you want why should you buy it?

And I don't believe anyone's complaining that Santa Rosa isn't in Macs yet. It isn't even out. Leopard's been delayed, so complaints are justified.

landis said:
Because most people are asking for user specific hardware that the mass majority does not need or want to pay for.
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Like a dedicated GPU in the Macbook, as an example? You do realise that components in a computer can be changed, don't you? That such a thing doesn't have to be standard, or present on lower models? There's a magical thing called "Built to Order".

People don't complain that such things aren't standard, but that they're not offered at all as a means to artificially inflate higher priced Mac sales. In the Macbooks case, to get a laptop with a GPU you have to shell out for a MBP and even then you're only getting an old, mediocre GPU. But those are the only choices you get from Apple and for many people neither is ideal. A BTO GPU in the Macbook like a go7300 wouldn't be hard, but then that would mean people who don't need a MBP wouldn't be forced to buy one.

landis said:
i have heard so many people say: I want a quad laptop with 4 gb memory standard and a 1000$ graphics card and 4 dvi out and touch screen hi res display

or i want to spend 500$ on a mac mini which is currently the worst computer in the lineup, but i want it to be able to support 6gb of memory have quad dvi, esata a 500gb hard drive a blue ray burner and have a seperate graphics card
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You haven't heard anyone ask for such things! :p

landis said:
it is understandable to want reasonable things but apple will NOT put something in a computer because one person wants it.
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Repeat after me: BTO! Computer components are modular for a resaon you know.

landis said:
and for all those people still running G3's, waiting is just plain stupid. future proofing your machine is not a good reason because they are wicked fast now and probably wont get much better. please you are running a 10 year old computer!

and people do not have to wait for leopard to buy a new computer, it will work on current machines!!
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Upgrades are a few months away so I would say buying now is pretty stupid, when you can pay the same price and get more for your money if you wait. Anyone running a G3 has had it for years, so will a month or two really make a difference? And if they're going to get a Mini or Macbook SR will bring substancial benefits.

The only time to buy a Mac is when they've been freshly upgraded, as their prices and specs only change every 6 months(ish). Buying at the end of a product cycle is pretty foolish.
 
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