MP 1,1-5,1 stuck in boot loop, 12.2 on 5,1

[avro707]

My dual 3.46ghz MP 5,1 (genuine 5,1) running 12.2 Monterey with Martin Lo’s 0.7.9 package as of yesterday morning did a crash on start up with the black screen message in multiple languages. (Kernel panic?)

I thought nothing of it and the computer restarted normally and I used it normally with no hint of problems, then shut it down end of day. Nothing unusual.

Today it won’t go at all - it chimes, gets to the boot picker screen but won’t go further. It also refuses to go into recovery mode, that loops as well.

I put in another SSD and can get Big Sur recovery mode (11.2.3), but obviously I don’t want to go that route.

Any thoughts on recovering this?

Could I do a complete reinstall using 12.2 installer on a USB with Martin lo’s 0.7.9 package unmodified?

Edit: I’ve got it going with my old Mojave HDD, so it doesn’t seem to be a computer failure.

 

[avro707]

i have got it to start in Mojave, but it gave me this kernel panic above.

CPU 3: NMI.

I took the CPU tray out and checked north bridge heatsink clips, everything is solid and the NB temps were below 60°C (I have an extra fan to cool it). I also put new thermal compound on the northbridge not so long ago, the clips are new.

CPU temps were all low as well - 35-40°C.

Anonymous UUID:       027DC128-2B4C-7AB1-10CA-81157B961454

Sun May 29 11:41:32 2022

*** Panic Report ***
Machine-check capabilities: 0x0000000000001c09
 family: 6 model: 44 stepping: 2 microcode: 31
 signature: 0x206c2
 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           X5690  @ 3.47GHz
 9 error-reporting banks
Processor 12: IA32_MCG_STATUS: 0x0000000000000004
 IA32_MC8_STATUS(0x421): 0xba000000008000b0
 IA32_MC8_MISC(0x423):   0x0000000000000000
Processor 13: IA32_MCG_STATUS: 0x0000000000000004
 IA32_MC8_STATUS(0x421): 0xba000000008000b0
 IA32_MC8_MISC(0x423):   0x0000000000000000
Processor 14: IA32_MCG_STATUS: 0x0000000000000004
 IA32_MC8_STATUS(0x421): 0xba000000008000b0
 IA32_MC8_MISC(0x423):   0x0000000000000000
Processor 15: IA32_MCG_STATUS: 0x0000000000000004
 IA32_MC8_STATUS(0x421): 0xba000000008000b0
 IA32_MC8_MISC(0x423):   0x0000000000000000
Processor 16: IA32_MCG_STATUS: 0x0000000000000004
 IA32_MC8_STATUS(0x421): 0xba000000008000b0
 IA32_MC8_MISC(0x423):   0x0000000000000000
Processor 17: IA32_MCG_STATUS: 0x0000000000000004
 IA32_MC8_STATUS(0x421): 0xba000000008000b0
 IA32_MC8_MISC(0x423):   0x0000000000000000
Processor 18: IA32_MCG_STATUS: 0x0000000000000004
 IA32_MC8_STATUS(0x421): 0xba000000008000b0
 IA32_MC8_MISC(0x423):   0x0000000000000000
Processor 19: IA32_MCG_STATUS: 0x0000000000000004
 IA32_MC8_STATUS(0x421): 0xba000000008000b0
 IA32_MC8_MISC(0x423):   0x0000000000000000
Processor 20: IA32_MCG_STATUS: 0x0000000000000004
 IA32_MC8_STATUS(0x421): 0xba000000008000b0
 IA32_MC8_MISC(0x423):   0x0000000000000000
Processor 21: IA32_MCG_STATUS: 0x0000000000000004
 IA32_MC8_STATUS(0x421): 0xba000000008000b0
 IA32_MC8_MISC(0x423):   0x0000000000000000
Processor 22: IA32_MCG_STATUS: 0x0000000000000004
 IA32_MC8_STATUS(0x421): 0xba000000008000b0
 IA32_MC8_MISC(0x423):   0x0000000000000000
Processor 23: IA32_MCG_STATUS: 0x0000000000000004
 IA32_MC8_STATUS(0x421): 0xba000000008000b0
 IA32_MC8_MISC(0x423):   0x0000000000000000
mp_kdp_enter() timed-out on cpu 9, NMI-ing
mp_kdp_enter() NMI pending on cpus: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
mp_kdp_enter() timed-out during locked wait after NMI;expected 24 acks but received 1 after 17299522 loops in 1728999779 ticks
panic(cpu 9 caller 0xffffff800e0db5da): "Machine Check at 0xffffff7f911454f0, registers:\n" "CR0: 0x000000008001003b, CR2: 0x000000010ea73000, CR3: 0x0000000013335000, CR4: 0x00000000000226e0\n" "RAX: 0x0000000000000020, RBX: 0xffffff8102bc5480, RCX: 0x0000000000000001, RDX: 0x0000000000000000\n" "RSP: 0xffffff8e13953d50, RBP: 0xffffff8e13953d80, RSI: 0x0000000000000006, RDI: 0xffffff81031b07a0\n" "R8:  0xffffff8103202e00, R9:  0x0000000000000000, R10: 0x0000000000000000, R11: 0x0000000000000000\n" "R12: 0xffffff7f91161630, R13: 0xffffff8102ba3b00, R14: 0x00000000000007b0, R15: 0x0000000000000006\n" "RFL: 0x0000000000000046, RIP: 0xffffff7f911454f0, CS:  0x0000000000000008, SS:  0x0000000000000010\n" "Error code: 0x0000000000000000\n"@/BuildRoot/Library/Caches/com.apple.xbs/Sources/xnu/xnu-4903.278.70/osfmk/i386/trap_native.c:168
Backtrace (CPU 9), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff800dd55b30 : 0xffffff800dfad5cd
0xffffff800dd55b80 : 0xffffff800e0e9245
0xffffff800dd55bc0 : 0xffffff800e0da97a
0xffffff800dd55c30 : 0xffffff800df5a9d0
0xffffff800dd55c50 : 0xffffff800dfacfe7
0xffffff800dd55d70 : 0xffffff800dface33
0xffffff800dd55de0 : 0xffffff800e0db5da
0xffffff800dd55ed0 : 0xffffff800df5b22f
0xffffff8e13953d80 : 0xffffff7f9113db89
0xffffff8e13953e60 : 0xffffff7f9113cdce
0xffffff8e13953f10 : 0xffffff800e0dc9ac
0xffffff8e13953f30 : 0xffffff800dfcf207
0xffffff8e13953f80 : 0xffffff800dfcf3f0
0xffffff8e13953fa0 : 0xffffff800df5a0ce
      Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
         com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement(220.0)[99F2E7B9-A130-3CAA-88F4-0AFE406C81AC]@0xffffff7f9113b000->0xffffff7f91163fff

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
Boot args: -lilubetaall -wegbeta agdpmod=pikera shikigva=80 unfairgva=1 mbasd=1 -wegtree -no_compat_check no32exec=0 latebloom=150 lb_range=20 lb_debug=0

Mac OS version:
18G9323

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 18.7.0: Tue Jun 22 19:37:08 PDT 2021; root:xnu-4903.278.70~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 041B6A6D-CD16-36FA-88B9-E32FF46EF89F
Kernel slide:     0x000000000dc00000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff800de00000
__HIB  text base: 0xffffff800dd00000
System model name: MacPro5,1 (Mac-7BA5B2D9E42DDD94)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 222211392085
last loaded kext at 56921549094: com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC    1.70 (addr 0xffffff7f914af000, size 32768)
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If I even try to run the Big Sur installer from USB it restarts immediately.

 

[mode11]

Sounds something like this: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000007289/server-products.html. Maybe the PDF on the linked page will offer some clues.

Perhaps later versions of macOS are stricter with timings, or just have a different boot sequence that triggers the issue sooner.

Edit: Ignore this. The article relates to an older Xeon family, and is probably not relevant.

 

[avro707]

Sounds something like this: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000007289/server-products.html. Maybe the PDF on the linked page will offer some clues.

Perhaps later versions of macOS are stricter with timings, or just have a different boot sequence that triggers the issue sooner.

Edit: Ignore this. The article relates to an older Xeon family, and is probably not relevant.

I ended up finding some other people with similar errors on the 6,1 Mac Pro - seems to be a CPU related issue so I've taken a chance and ordered a pair of X5690s since they are very cheap and will have a go at replacing the CPUs. I still have my new 7,1 on order now so if the 5,1 comes good again even better.

I just need to know which CPU in the machine is the problem one, CPU 3 and CPU9 - would that be CPU A?

mp_kdp_enter() timed-out on cpu 9, NMI-ing

 

[Macsonic]

I ended up finding some other people with similar errors on the 6,1 Mac Pro - seems to be a CPU related issue so I've taken a chance and ordered a pair of X5690s since they are very cheap and will have a go at replacing the CPUs. I still have my new 7,1 on order now so if the 5,1 comes good again even better.

I just need to know which CPU in the machine is the problem one, CPU 3 and CPU9 - would that be CPU A?

mp_kdp_enter() timed-out on cpu 9, NMI-ing

I’m sorry to hear about your boot loop problem. A year ago I had a similar symptom where my 5,1 Mac Pro went into a repeated boot loop with Catalina in Open core. The problem started when I installed third-party software that may have caused the boot loop. By habit, luckily I keep a cloned copy of my main drive and this helped fix the issue. I re-cloned the healthy Catalina drive to my main drive with the boot loop problem. Then I re-blessed the re-cloned drive and everything was working fine. I’m using Martin Lo’s Open core.

I hope that your problem turns out to be just a minor OS getting corrupted and not a CPU problem.

Post about cloning Open core

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/open-core-bigsur-clone-sdd-and-efi-to-new-ssd.2285049/

 

[avro707]

I replaced CPU A with another X5690 Xeon that I purchased.

I put the old HDD in and on Mojave it started up again - though it was only showing 112GB RAM instead of 128GB.

I've just shut it down again and will power it up and see if we have success again. Fingers crossed!

Edit: Second boot up, RAM slot #5 is showing as empty. But she started again.

 

[Macschrauber]

Try to reseat the missing ram, say 5 times. Maybe oxidation.

 

[avro707]

Okay it appears to be working.


I'm now trying to get Monterey installed on it from a USB that I've used before.


I got Martin Lo's 0.8.0 package that I've taken from my other 5,1 Mac Pro (which has working Monterey) - and I've change the following: https://www.youtube.com /watch?v=ULXchb5KKqE (remove the space).

Regardless of what I try, I get a forbidden symbol when doing the first reboot, where am I going wrong?

Config.plist is attached if someone can find what setting is causing it to give the forbidden symbol. This config will let me upgrade my other nearly identical 6 core Mac Pro to newer Monterey versions without problem.

I know why I love the 6,1 and 7,1 so much, it's just easier.

Edit: 3 - it seems to be working now - monterey installer is running without forbidden symbol.

Edit 4: It's working again. CMD+OPT+P+R got it to go eventually. Now I'm in 12.2 monterey and I'm going to put 12.6.1. I have 0.8.6 Martin Lo package going and my old backup Mojave HDD is out of the computer. So it appears the old machine lives again, so far at least.

 

[avro707]

Final reply I hope: I have 12.6.1 Monterey installed along with Martin Lo’s 0.8.0 package that was taken off my other 5,1.

I still had random forbidden symbols appearing on some starts, but on a hunch I disable the surplus settings in config.plist and now it seems to be working without issues. I have done multiple boots to test that.

I ran the computer with Ful Gaz and Zwift and both seem to be fine. It’s sitting in my indoor cycling pain cave running the whole setup. It’s doing what the other 6 core 5,1 was doing, only difference this one has working Bluetooth antenna.

So the problem causing the kernel panics seemed to be the CPU A having a fault.