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MajorFubar

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So it's just a few days beyond six months since I first took delivery of my 32/32/2TB Studio Max. I figured I'd summarise my likes and dislikes of this particular product during this period, for the benefit of anyone potentially interested.

Let's get the negatives out the way first:
  • From first power-up I got no display on my Samsung LU28R55 HDMI->HDMI. This wasn't a great start, and seems to be just a fundamental incompatibility issue. Thankfully I was able to circumvent this by using a 'borrowed' HP G5 dock from work which comes with a Displayport output. Without that, I think the Studio would have been returned because I wasn't going to head down some rabbit-hole of endlessly buying monitors to see which ones may or may not work with it. I can imagine the outcome of me going into Curry's and asking their 'product specialist' which monitor is going to be compatible with a new Mac they don't stock which was only launched three weeks ago...
  • Now and again (let's say weekly), the computer drops connection to all hardware connected to it via USB-A and/or C. This was an hourly occurrence during the two weeks of August when the room temperature was over 35C (in the UK our houses don't have aircon), but it can still be an issue even now. I've learned to recognise the early warning signs and I just reboot, which solves the issue 'til next time. Also I'm one of those people who shuts-down the computer every night, so it's nothing to do with how long the computer has been on, either. No idea if this is hardware related or Monterey, but considering it seemed to be influenced by base room temperature, I'm going with hardware, somehow.
  • Not its fault, but it is too powerful for my needs (hence was overpriced for what I need): what I really wanted was an M1 Mini Pro, which doesn't exist. Superficially you could argue overspec'ing a computer buys you a longer period before obsolescence. In reality that doesn't happen. Likely all M1 Macs will be obsoleted by the exact same future MacOS, irrespective of their individual hardware specifications. We've seen this before when certain Mac Pros were prohibited from running the then-latest MacOS even though their hardware could wipe the floor with newer compatible MBAs or MBPs.
  • Impossible, it would seem, to upgrade memory and storage. I knew this going in. And I know this goes for nearly all current Apple computers, but I can't in good faith have a 'negatives' list which doesn't include this glaringly-obvious issue. Spending two grand or more on a computer - especially a 'BYOKM&M' desktop computer, rather than an AIO or laptop - you shouldn't need to predict at that point what your memory and internal-storage requirements will be in 12, 24 or 48 months' time, or even next week.
  • Incompatibility with some 3rd-party hardware and software is still a real issue, two years in to Apple Silicon. I know this is not the machine's fault, but it's still a factor. During my worst periods of frustration when I've been struggling to get things to work (chiefly my Icon control surfaces), I seriously wished I'd given it about 5 years before transitioning, to give RotW outside Apple a chance to catch up and make their hardware, firmware and software M-series compatible.
  • A front-facing USB-A port would have been nice, as well as (or instead of) on the back. I find it hard to believe that users with a frequent need to temporarily rig-up USB-A devices make up just a tiny minority of people buying this kind of prosumer gear. I even have a client who stores all her backing tracks on an iPod Classic, which I need to connect with a 30-pin to USB-A cable. Most bring USB-A thumb-drives. Years ago I used two-part epoxy to jerry-rig a USB-A extension cable into the base of what used to be an old Wifi antenna, to stop me needing to fumble round the back of my Mac Mini or iMac to plug USB-A accessories in. While I still use it, the Studio had an opportunity to give me a front-facing USB-A port, but failed, IMO for no other reason than Apple not wanting an 'obsolete' port on the front of their flagship desktop unit.
And now the positives:
  • Very quiet. I've not undertaken any tasks which cause the fans to increase from anything but their default tickover speed. And it's not that I have tried to be extra genteel: it gets used as a tool. Also, my early machine does not suffer from 'squeal-gate', despite some people on here insisting that it must do, and I'm just deaf. Well my 20 y/o twin sons aren't deaf and all they claim to hear from it is the faint whirr of the fan if they put their ears close to the case. So no, as far as I'm concerned I'm one of the lucky ones and it's a non-issue on my machine.
  • Very fast and capable. I can't foresee a time when my workflows and uses will require anything with more power than this computer. Huge multitrack audio projects? Loads of VSTs with real-time effects? All no problem. Editing multi-stream 4K videos with colour-grading and correction? Also no problem. I know full well in three OS's time the incremental slow-downs that each OS always brings will start to be noticeable; I've been down that road before. But for now, on MacOS Monterey, all is (very much more than) good, speed-wise.
  • Sleek, well-built, compact design that doesn't dominate the desk. I know some people have compared the Mac Studio's form factor to that of a couple of house-bricks with curved edges, but I don't think so at all. For all that I'm quick to knock Apple when I think they deserve it, the understated elegance of their designs, including that of this machine, is something that has no equal. By comparison, competitors' products look like pre-production proof-of-concept Kickstarter projects, in need of final aesthetic finesse.
  • Great selection of I/O, other than the aforementioned lack of even just a solitary front-facing USB-A port.
  • Portable. It's true that mostly when I'm recording somewhere 'in the field', or visiting a client with my first rough mix, more likely I'll take my Macbook Air, but it's great to have the option to be able to throw my main computer into a backpack-sized carrier and just go. Competitors' machines with this level of power and I/O, you're mostly talking about lugging a tower-unit around, weighing about as much as a paving slab.
On the whole it's a great piece of machinery and a great tool. But whether or not you need this power is going to be a personal decision. If and when M2 Mini arrives (surely a when), it could almost certainly be argued I could have managed with that and not an M1 Studio Max, and I think for 90% of people choosing a desktop unit + a monitor instead of a laptop, something like an M2 Mini (when it arrives) will be all they ever need, until MacOS 20 (or thereabouts) obsoletes it.

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Strider64

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Not its fault, but it is too powerful for my needs (hence was overpriced for what I need): what I really wanted was an M1 Mini Pro, which doesn't exist. Superficially you could argue overspec'ing a computer buys you a longer period before obsolescence. In reality that doesn't happen. Likely all M1 Macs will be obsoleted by the exact same future MacOS, irrespective of their individual hardware specifications. We've seen this before when certain Mac Pros were prohibited from running the then-latest MacOS even though their hardware could wipe the floor with newer compatible MBAs or MBPs.

I disagree with this one a little. Sure the MacOS might not run the latest apps on an Apple Computer that is showing it's age, but could if it it supported the older Hardware. Apple is in the business in making money and that is one way they do it. There are usually a way to work around the limitation if it is really need for that App or be content with the latest version of the app. No one computer will fit a person's work needs, but it's better to spec it out more than you want than not to (especially with Apple) than to keep praying for that perfect computer. Just my opinion, besides it's fun to be able to do run apps that you normally don't use efficiently just for the fun of it. 🤣
 
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maflynn

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On the whole it's a great piece of machinery and a great tool. But whether or not you need this power is going to be a personal decision.
Great review, thanks for your thoughts

Question, Knowing what you now know. Would you buy it again given the opportunity? Would you go with a different configuration or a different Mac?
 
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macsound1

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If I'm spotting it right, love your G5 keyboard. It's my absolute favorite except it gets dirty inside.
Is it bluetooth or wired?
Might I also recommend Scotch clear Mounting squares for your USB extension. They're sorta flexible plastic that's sticky on both sides.
 
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Great review! I don’t share any of your complaints. Mac mini pro is essentially this. There is a very small price gap between an M* Pro Mac mini and this entry level.

This also satisfies my major complaint with Apple back in the Intel days. Mac mini was too horrible, especially from a GPU perspective. Mac Pro was too expensive and base model was a joke, I don’t like all in ones. Mac Studio made this perfect fit in that market!

I got an M1 Ultra. My only complaint is that while it can be viewed as quiet in one way, there is that awful high pitch noise. Luckily I wear headphones 95% of the time so it’s not a big issue for me. But I’d prefer louder fans to a very faint high pitch sound that can get irritating. It’s one of those that you go “do I hear something?” Enough to be very annoying.
 
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MajorFubar

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Great review, thanks for your thoughts

Question, Knowing what you now know. Would you buy it again given the opportunity? Would you go with a different configuration or a different Mac?
It's quite frustrating really because the only M1 alternative was an M1 Mini, which I think I would have struggled with, but I don't really need an M1 Max. What I really wanted was the M1 Pro Mini, which doesn't exist. The old 2011 iMac I was using was on its last legs so I needed to buy at least something, so I chose this.

Maybe in hindsight I should have bought the Intel Mini and waited longer to transition.
 
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MajorFubar

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If I'm spotting it right, love your G5 keyboard. It's my absolute favorite except it gets dirty inside.
Is it bluetooth or wired?
Might I also recommend Scotch clear Mounting squares for your USB extension. They're sorta flexible plastic that's sticky on both sides.
Thanks. it's wired. I hate bluetooth computer accessories after too many bad incidents, so I avoid them. Even the trackpad is permanently wired.

Thanks for the tip on the Scotch mounting squares.
 

pshufd

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It's quite frustrating really because the only M1 alternative was an M1 Mini, which I think I would have struggled with, but I don't really need an M1 Max. What I really wanted was the M1 Pro Mini, which doesn't exist. The old 2011 iMac I was using was on its last legs so I needed to buy at least something, so I chose this.

Maybe in hindsight I should have bought the Intel Mini and waited longer to transition.

This is me too. I got the mini well before the Studio was available but all of my reading has me thinking that it's a lot more than I need. An M1 or M2 Pro would be a much better fit. Or two M1 minis to get more RAM and Displays.
 
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MajorFubar

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Great review! I don’t share any of your complaints. Mac mini pro is essentially this. There is a very small price gap between an M* Pro Mac mini and this entry level.
Opinions are going to differ, and are probably influenced by each territory's pricing structure. It's not possible to spec the M1 Mini with the 32GB RAM the Studio comes with as minimum, so the two can't be directly compared, but in the UK there is a £900 difference between a £1,099 16/512 M1 Mac Mini and a £1999 32/512GB base Studio, which in my opinion is definitely not a very small price gap, and clearly left a space for a non-existent M1 Mac Mini Pro, priced somewhere between the two. That's probably what I would have chosen to buy, albeit with a 2TB SSD.

Currently that gap is (not particularly well) filled by one of the last two Intel Macs you can buy: the £1,099 8/512 Intel Mini, aimed presumably at people who need it to be an Intel above all else, because in every metric the cheaper M1 Mini smashes it out the ballpark.
 
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