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mmmcheese

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Ok, I'm looking for a machine in a category I'm not all that familiar with, so I'm looking for some suggestions.

I'm doing some research where I need some fairly serious quantities of memory. Although my work is computationally intensive, at this point, memory size is even more critical. I'm looking to buy a system with 4GB of RAM, but this is a minimum...I want to be able to upgrade this at a later point when 4GB runs out, and when I have some more funding. I'm hoping for dual processor with an extra socket for a second processor later, but I'm open to other options (even if I can never go above 2 processors total...either 1 dual core, or 2 single core).

Platform isn't really that important...x86, PPC, Sparc, etc....doesn't matter. At this point I don't even care about OS, since all of the software is written in Java.

My budget is limited, but (hopefully) not unreasonable....

Suggest away! :) Thanks.
 
dukebound85 said:
Check out the workstations from Sun possibly. I don't know if they hit all your requirements but worth a look
http://www.sun.com/desktop/index.jsp

Been there already...Sun seems to be a complete rip off. I compare a machine, and a similarly equiped machine from IBM...the IBM was about $2300 and the Sun machine was $5600.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks.
 
What's wrong with the Power Mac G5? They support up to 16 GB RAM. I also work with the HP XW9300 dual Opteron workstations at work, nice machines. Or if you don't need 3D why not look at a server? The HP Proliant DL385 dual Opteron can use a huge amount of RAM. If that isn't enough computational power you can check out the DL585 which has support for up to 4 processors.

It might actually be easier if you tell us your budget.
 
risc said:
What's wrong with the Power Mac G5? They support up to 16 GB RAM. I also work with the HP XW9300 dual Opteron workstations at work, nice machines. Or if you don't need 3D why not look at a server? The HP Proliant DL385 dual Opteron can use a huge amount of RAM. If that isn't enough computational power you can check out the DL585 which has support for up to 4 processors.

It might actually be easier if you tell us your budget.

I have considered the Power Mac. So far, it's my most affordable option...I'm just trying to consider all options. There's no 3D being used. I don't think I said it had to be a Workstation, a server is fine too.

Honestly, I don't know my budget...but I've been told "the cheaper, the better."
 
If 3D isn't needed a HP Proliant may be your cheapest option. Here's a quick run down:

DL380G4 - up to Dual Xeon dual core 2.8 GHz, up to 8 GB RAM
DL385 - up to Dual Opteron 2.8 GHz, up to 16 GB RAM
DL585 - up to Quad Opteron 2.8 GHz, too much RAM :D

I work with all of these machines (and other models) daily and I can't fault them. Great machines. Very cheap for what you actually get.
 
risc said:
If 3D isn't needed a HP Proliant may be your cheapest option. Here's a quick run down:

DL380G4 - up to Dual Xeon dual core 2.8 GHz, up to 8 GB RAM
DL385 - up to Dual Opteron 2.8 GHz, up to 16 GB RAM
DL585 - up to Quad Opteron 2.8 GHz, too much RAM :D

I work with all of these machines (and other models) daily and I can't fault them. Great machines. Very cheap for what you actually get.

Any experience with the DL145? That was one I was looking at when I was looking on the HP site the other day. Not quite as expandable, but it looks interesting anyway.
 
I've seen 1 once I have not spent much time with them. I just jumped on the Proliant site and it looks like a fine machine. If expandability isn't required that could be perfect for you. I love the Proliant hardware, and software. I also work with other brands but if I was buying for myself I'd go with the Proliant.
 
risc said:
I've seen 1 once I have not spent much time with them. I just jumped on the Proliant site and it looks like a fine machine. If expandability isn't required that could be perfect for you. I love the Proliant hardware, and software. I also work with other brands but if I was buying for myself I'd go with the Proliant.

As much as I like the better expandability of the DL3xx, I'm thinking that my supervisor will decide that the lower price of the DL1xx will win out. Plus, I have to propose multiple options.

When I was pricing stuff out a few days ago, a dual 2.0GHz G5 Power Mac was still slightly cheaper than the DL145 when I put in 4GB of RAM. I was a bit surprised.

Thanks for the help.
 
mmmcheese said:
When I was pricing stuff out a few days ago, a dual 2.0GHz G5 Power Mac was still slightly cheaper than the DL145 when I put in 4GB of RAM. I was a bit surprised.

You are comparing the price of ECC RAM to normal RAM. Just like with Apple you will be better off if you look for certified RAM from another supplier. :)
 
risc said:
You are comparing the price of ECC RAM to normal RAM. Just like with Apple you will be better off if you look for certified RAM from another supplier. :)

I was, in both cases. And yes, I know one has ECC RAM, and one doesn't...but one REQUIRES it. Since this isn't a high availability system, I think non-ECC RAM will be just fine (although I could be wrong).
 
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