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eicca

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Alright, this is my 2010 dual-Xeon with 8 cores, 12GB RAM (6x2GB) and a Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GPU. Running High Sierra 10.13.6 with BootROM 140.0.0.0.0

I keep getting system freezes, and I've tentatively narrowed it down to the following conditions: If Safari is open, and the GPU has been under load, when stopping the load on the GPU, the system freezes completely. All inputs stop responding, audio goes silent, the screen freezes and nothing but a hard reboot gets it going again. Sometimes it even reboots on its own.

If I play Call of Duty with Safari open, after quitting the game, the system will freeze.

If I run LuxMark and stress test the GPU with Safari open, once quitting LuxMark the system will freeze.

Here's the thing: I don't see anything in system.log that indicates a kernel panic or other typical errors. EtreCheck doesn't show any issues. Hardware monitors show consistent power levels and no abnormal temperatures.

I'll attach the EtreCheck logs in this post, and photos of the system.log at the time of the crash in a following post.


I have tried to eliminate RAM, processor and power supply issues by running a whole ton of complex tabs in Firefox, including a 4k YouTube video, a huge project in Logic with all the plugin windows open, LuxMark stress test, and Call of Duty on max graphics all simultaneously. When doing so, the computer doesn't even hiccup. The memory pressure graph turns yellow but that's the only indication of the work load.

Only after letting it go back to idle does it freeze, and all the times it's happened have been with Safari running. This has occurred with Safari 11.whatever and 13.1.

The other reason I suspect Safari here is because all other apps restore properly to their previous state when restarting. Safari either comes back to a state several seconds before the crash or a completely fresh restart, no saved tabs, nothing.

What other places/logs can I look for indications of what is going on?


EtreCheck log:
Taylor’s Mac Pro 2020-04-15






EtreCheck version: 5.5.4 (5106)
Report generated: 2020-04-15 12?23?19 Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com Runtime: 2?59
Performance: Good
Sandbox: Enabled
Full drive access: Enabled

Problem: Beachballing Major Issues:

Anything that appears on this list needs immediate attention.

No Time Machine backup - Time Machine backup not found.
Runaway process - A process is using a large percentage of your CPU.
Unsigned files - There are unsigned software files installed that could be adware and should be reviewed.

Minor Issues:

These issues do not need immediate attention but they may indicate future problems or opportunities for improvem ent.

Unsigned files - There are unsigned software files installed. Apple has said that unsigned software will not run by d efault in a future version of the operating system.

Vintage hardware - This machine may be considered vintage.
32-bit Apps - This machine has 32-bits apps will not work on macOS 10.15 "Catalina".

Hardware Information:

Mac Pro (2010 - 2012) - Vintage!
Mac Pro Model: MacPro5,1
Dual 2.4 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (Xeon(R)) CPU: 8-core 12 GB RAM - Upgradeable

DIMM 1 - 2 GB DDR3 ECC 1066 DIMM 2 - 2 GB DDR3 ECC 1066 DIMM 3 - 2 GB DDR3 ECC 1066 DIMM 4 - Empty

DIMM 5 - 2 GB DDR3 ECC 1066 DIMM 6 - 2 GB DDR3 ECC 1066 DIMM 7 - 2 GB DDR3 ECC 1066 DIMM 8 - Empty

Video Information:

Radeon RX 580 - VRAM: 8192 MB ASUS PB278 2560 x 1440

Drives:

disk0 - WDC WD1001FALS-41Y6A0 1.00 TB (Mechanical - 7200 RPM) Internal SATA 3 Gigabit Serial ATA

disk0s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 210 MB
disk0s2 - Macintosh HD (Journaled HFS+) 999.21 GB (49.35 GB used) disk0s3 - Recovery HD [Recovery] 650 MB

disk1 - Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1.00 TB (Mechanical - 7200 RPM) Internal SATA 3 Gigabit Serial ATA

disk1s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 210 MB
disk1s2 - V******1 (Journaled HFS+) 999.86 GB (664 MB used)





disk2 - Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1.00 TB (Mechanical - 7200 RPM)






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Internal SATA 3 Gigabit Serial ATA
disk2s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 210 MB
disk2s2 - V******2 (Journaled HFS+) 999.86 GB (664 MB used)

disk3 - Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1.00 TB (Mechanical - 7200 RPM) Internal SATA 3 Gigabit Serial ATA

disk3s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 210 MB
disk3s2 - V******3 (Journaled HFS+) 999.86 GB (664 MB used)

disk4 - Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1.00 TB (Mechanical - 7200 RPM) Internal SATA 3 Gigabit Serial ATA

disk4s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 210 MB
disk4s2 - V******4 (Journaled HFS+) 999.86 GB (664 MB used)

Mounted Volumes:

disk0s2 - Macintosh HD
999.21 GB (49.35 GB used, 949.76 GB available, 949.60 GB free) Journaled HFS+
Mount point: /

disk1s2 - V******1
999.86 GB (664 MB used, 999.20 GB free) Journaled HFS+
Mount point: /Volumes/V******1

disk2s2 - V******2
999.86 GB (664 MB used, 999.20 GB free) Journaled HFS+
Mount point: /Volumes/V******2

disk3s2 - V******3
999.86 GB (664 MB used, 999.20 GB free) Journaled HFS+
Mount point: /Volumes/V******3

disk4s2 - V******4
999.86 GB (664 MB used, 999.20 GB free) Journaled HFS+
Mount point: /Volumes/V******4

Network:

Interface en0: Ethernet 1 Interface en1: Ethernet 2 Interface fw0: FireWire Interface en2: Wi-Fi

802.11 a/b/g/n
Interface en3: Bluetooth PAN

System Software:

macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (17G66) Time since boot: Less than an hour

Notifications:

EtreCheck.app 3 notifications





Security:






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Gatekeeper: Enabled
System Integrity Protection: Enabled

Antivirus software: Apple

Unsigned Files:
Launchd: /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.corespeechd.plist

Executable: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreSpeech.framework/corespeechd

Running app: /private/var/folders/3h/zw8802nj17n9jy9g476v4k5m0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/01AC28E5-807A-45 4E-84F3-33D7161DD6AB/d/LuxMark.app/Contents/MacOS/LuxMark

Details: Executable file is hidden - possibly adware Apps: 5

32-bit Applications:

4 32-bit apps

System Launch Agents:

[Not Loaded] 15 Apple tasks [Loaded] 177 Apple tasks [Running] 100 Apple tasks [Other] One Apple task

System Launch Daemons:

[Not Loaded] 38 Apple tasks [Loaded] 192 Apple tasks [Running] 105 Apple tasks

Launch Daemons:

[Running] com.crystalidea.macsfancontrol.smcwrite.plist (Ilya Parniuk - installed 2020-04-14)

User Login Items:

[Running] iTunesHelper (Apple - installed 2020-04-12) Application /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app

Audio Plug-ins:

BluetoothAudioPlugIn: 6.0.7 (Apple - installed 2018-12-14) iSightAudio: 7.7.3 (Apple - installed 2018-12-14)
AirPlay: 2.0 (Apple - installed 2018-12-14)
AppleAVBAudio: 680.2 (Apple - installed 2018-12-14) BridgeAudioSP: 4.20.2 (Apple - installed 2018-12-14) AppleTimeSyncAudioClock: 1.0 (Apple - installed 2018-12-14)

Time Machine:
Time Machine Not Configured!

Performance:

System Load: 1.48 (1 min ago) 1.30 (5 min ago) 0.74 (15 min ago) Nominal I/O speed: 11.51 MB/s
File system: 37.01 seconds
Write speed: 121 MB/s

Read speed: 122 MB/s

CPU Usage Snapshot: Type Overall






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System: 5 % User: 12 % Idle: 83 %

Top Processes Snapshot by CPU:
Process (count) CPU (Source - Location) Other processes 161.16 % (?)
Console 78.38 % (Apple)
trustd 22.08 % (Apple)
LuxMark 4.97 % (? - Translocated) EtreCheck 4.85 % (App Store)

Top Processes Snapshot by Memory:
Process (count) RAM usage (Source - Location) EtreCheck 477 MB (App Store)
firefox 295 MB (Mozilla Corporation)
LuxMark 291 MB (? - Translocated)
iTunes 140 MB (Apple)
Console 117 MB (Apple)

Top Processes Snapshot by Network Use: Process Input / Output (Source - Location) iTunes 2 MB / 1 KB (Apple)
Other processes 59 KB / 30 KB (?)

firefox 50 KB / 23 KB (Mozilla Corporation) SystemUIServer 0 B / 72 B (Apple) spindump_agent 0 B / 0 B (Apple)

Virtual Memory Information:

Physical RAM: 12 GB

Free RAM: 3.57 GB Used RAM: 4.07 GB Cached files: 4.37 GB

Available RAM: 7.93 GB Swap Used: 0 B

Software Installs (past 30 days):
Install Date Name (Version)
2020-04-12 SU_TITLE (10.13.6.1.1.1544783150) 2020-04-14 macOS Mojave (10.14.6) 2020-04-14 macOS High Sierra (10.13.6) 2020-04-15 EtreCheck (5.5.4)
2020-04-15 Logic Pro X (10.3.0)
2020-04-15 HWSensors v6.16.1372 (6.16.1372) 2020-04-15 Safari (13.1)
2020-04-15 macOS Installer Notification (2.0) 2020-04-15 CompatibilityNotificationData (1.0.5) 2020-04-15 Gatekeeper Configuration Data (181) 2020-04-15 XProtectPlistConfigData (2118) 2020-04-15 MRTConfigData (1.58)

Diagnostics Information (past 7-30 days):

2020-04-15 00n28n18 Call of Duty 4.app - High CPU Use Executable: /Applications/Call of Duty 4.app






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2020-04-15 00n24n16 Logic Pro X.app - High CPU Use Executable: /Applications/Logic Pro X.app

2020-04-14 22n25n34 com.apple.WebKit.WebContent - Memory
Executable: /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.WebKit.WebCont

ent.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

2020-04-14 20n58n55 OverloadPlayableTeaser.app - High CPU Use Executable: /Volumes/V****E/*/OverloadPlayableTeaser.app

2020-04-14 20n42n23 Sauerbraten.app - Crash Executable: /Applications/Sauerbraten.app Details:

objc_msgSend() selector name: count

2020-04-14 20n26n51 storeuid.app - Memory
Executable: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CommerceKit.framework/Versions/A/Resources/storeuid.app

End of report






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Here are photos of System.log right at the time of crash and reboot:

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rodedwards

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Safari sucks. Google Chrome and Firefox are far superior browsers which puzzles me as Apple actually makes the OS. Safari is bad at playing back UHD 4k and 8k video too. Small wonder it crashes your 5,1 Mac as it also does mine and i have same GPU Radeon 580 RX Sapphire 96Gb ram and 12 cores.
 

eicca

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Oct 23, 2014
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Safari sucks. Google Chrome and Firefox are far superior browsers which puzzles me as Apple actually makes the OS. Safari is bad at playing back UHD 4k and 8k video too. Small wonder it crashes your 5,1 Mac as it also does mine and i have same GPU Radeon 580 RX Sapphire 96Gb ram and 12 cores.

You have the same symptoms? Complete system freeze?
 

xander09

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Mar 15, 2018
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I have a different system setup (2011 MBP 17-inch with RX 460 eGPU on 10.13.6 running Safari 12.1.2), but am experiencing a similar GUI hang (cursor active but no interaction) with frustrating regularity. The hangs often happened when switching over to Safari so I've been trying out Opera. Had two days of uptime, but today I got the GUI hang when clicking over to Opera. And then after restarting, I got another one clicking on a link in Mail.

I haven't been able to get the hangs to happen predictably as you have. I'll try the LuxMark stress test and see if that will force the hang.

I was able to SSH into the machine from another computer and confirmed that the system was still running. WindowServer reported as stuck. But at least this way I am able to send a quit command to open apps so the restart wasn't a hard power-off situation.
 

eicca

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Oct 23, 2014
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I have a different system setup (2011 MBP 17-inch with RX 460 eGPU on 10.13.6 running Safari 12.1.2), but am experiencing a similar GUI hang (cursor active but no interaction) with frustrating regularity. The hangs often happened when switching over to Safari so I've been trying out Opera. Had two days of uptime, but today I got the GUI hang when clicking over to Opera. And then after restarting, I got another one clicking on a link in Mail.

I haven't been able to get the hangs to happen predictably as you have. I'll try the LuxMark stress test and see if that will force the hang.

I was able to SSH into the machine from another computer and confirmed that the system was still running. WindowServer reported as stuck. But at least this way I am able to send a quit command to open apps so the restart wasn't a hard power-off situation.

Yours sounds like a case of bad RAM.
 
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