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jonepie

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Oct 18, 2006
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Hi all,

I recently purchased a 1GB memory upgrade for my Powerbook G-4. Upon installing the new hardware, my book failed to boot. Of course I immediately removed the new RAM, however still no power up. Tried Resetting the powerup using the shift+control+option+ plus power button to no avail.

Has anyone else had anything remotely like this happen? with the logic board running $600 i hope that maybe someone might have some insight on this issue... :-(
 

jonepie

macrumors newbie
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Oct 18, 2006
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Could Be, but no....

Could have been that the unit was not fully pushed in... however how would that explain after removing it there was still no power up... The fan comes on, and it sounds like the disc drive is spinning, but thats about it... any other thoughts demi god?
 

jonepie

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Oct 18, 2006
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Should Stick To PC

Everyone on this forum will probably hate me for saying this... but I think I'll stick to PC. I have upgraded PC's memory units since before I was born, and never had a problem. Open up the case, pop the chip in and close the case.... done.

What is this "static preperation H" you speak of? I still think that there should be real thought put into upgrading a memory unit.
 

JHacker

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Aug 27, 2006
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Go away. Seriously. How does having a bad memory experience convince you that PCs are better? Either it was the RAM's fault or YOUR fault. Static precautions mean that if you touch something you're not supposed to and your body has static shock on it, you can short something out. When I got my RAM from OWC, it told me how to un-staticshock myself.
 

Digidesign

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Jan 7, 2002
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jonepie said:
Everyone on this forum will probably hate me for saying this... but I think I'll stick to PC. I have upgraded PC's memory units since before I was born, and never had a problem. Open up the case, pop the chip in and close the case.... done.

What is this "static preperation H" you speak of? I still think that there should be real thought put into upgrading a memory unit.

go away troll.
 

CanadaRAM

macrumors G5
jonepie said:
I have upgraded PC's memory units since before I was born, and never had a problem.
Doctor - that's not an umbilical cord on the ultrasound - it's a... a... Static Strap!!

Get serious, dude. On the off chance that you are a legitimate poster -- yes, any machine can be damaged by improper handling -- PC or Mac. That PCs in specific are immune to your tender mercies without protection is just magical thinking.

There is an issue on certain early Aluminum Powerbook G4's where the lower memory socket overheats and stops working. This is sometimes associated with a firmware upgrade or an OS upgrade past 10.3.8. If the only RAM module was in the lower socket, then it would fail to boot, because there would be no accessible RAM.

It is unlikely in the extreme that a properly installed memory module of the right type, could 'cause' logic board damage. I would say there was a preexisting condition, or that damage was done in the process of installing, or that there was some problem that was just waiting for the next time machine had its battery removed, to present itself.
 

jonepie

macrumors newbie
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Oct 18, 2006
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Wow, what a big help this forum is!

Yes, actually, I rubbed my feet a few times accross the carpet before I installed the memory... For good luck... And then I rubbed a balloon on the top of my head, to make sure I had a 'good charge'.

But seriously folks, I could never had imagined the cornacopia of help I got from this forum. Everyone on here that maliciously insulted me made it very easy to find the answer to my question, and a solution to the problem.:) :) :) :) :) Oh, and I'm not a troll... I am a Liger.
 

zac4mac

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Jun 18, 2002
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jonepie - I think you asked for that reaction by posting that some RAM killed your old portable and you're going back to PCs...

RAM is often difficult to seat and it stresses the board/connector if you're not careful. Odds of the RAM killing your board are a lot lower than the chance of YOU crackiing a trace on the Mobo.

Also - key combo you used is Force Quit, try command-option-p-r right after start-up, hold keys until you hear 3 sets of startup chimes, that's resetting the PRAM

good luck
Zack
 

jonepie

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Oct 18, 2006
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thanks Zack

Thanks, Zack. I will try this key combination, and hopefully this will help. i will let you know if it does.
 

jeremy.king

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Jul 23, 2002
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jonepie said:
however how would that explain after removing it there was still no power up... The fan comes on, and it sounds like the disc drive is spinning, but thats about it... any other thoughts demi god?

If you took the memory out, did you put the original back in...If you have no memory in it at all...well...um....it won't boot.
 

jonepie

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Oct 18, 2006
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kingjr3 said:
If you took the memory out, did you put the original back in...If you have no memory in it at all...well...um....it won't boot.

Well, actually, there are two memory slots for this particular machine. I already have 1GB from original factory. This was going to be in CONJUNCTION with that memory, so to answer your question, no i did not put the original memory back in, because it never left it's home.

Thanks, however, I hope that question wasn't a cleverly disguised insult to my intelligence
 

bousozoku

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jonepie said:
Everyone on this forum will probably hate me for saying this... but I think I'll stick to PC. I have upgraded PC's memory units since before I was born, and never had a problem. Open up the case, pop the chip in and close the case.... done.

What is this "static preperation H" you speak of? I still think that there should be real thought put into upgrading a memory unit.

You're always supposed to touch metal on the case to rid yourself of static electricity, at a minimum or wear a tether (anti-static wristband) to reduce the risk when inside the computer.

Hopefully, you removed the battery before you did any memory upgrade to avoid having it inadvertently power up.

While the space is tight, it's not difficult to upgrade the RAM in a PowerBook. As with everything, you must be paying attention to details. You make sure that the stick is all the way into the slot and completely flat to the holder.

If you're as experienced as you say, I shouldn't be telling you anything new.
 

jonepie

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Oct 18, 2006
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meepm00pmeep said:
yes, (as stated above) you're suppose to ground yourself before installing anything... that goes for both PC's and Macs

Guys, I was only kidding when I said that I rubbed my feet across the carpet and a balloon across my head before I installed the memory. Of course I made sure that I was not charged by wearing a static wristband. I thought that the terminology 'static preperation' was something else pertaining specificaly to MACS. Once again, I am only a Baby in upgrading Macs. My experience in PC's is not 'Godlike', however I have been working with PC hardware for about 10 years, and never had a problem installing memory.

Anyway, the reason I originally posted this thread was to find out if anyone had ever had a problem with Techworks memory adversly effecting their MAC system, and it seems, (so far) that no one has. Once again, if anyone has any other ideas, please let me know, as I don't want to spend $600 on a new logic board. I still have yet to try the key combination recommended by Zack to reset the PRAM.
 

meepm00pmeep

macrumors 6502
Sep 20, 2006
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Toronto
jonepie said:
Guys, I was only kidding when I said that I rubbed my feet across the carpet and a balloon across my head before I installed the memory. Of course I made sure that I was not charged by wearing a static wristband. I thought that the terminology 'static preperation' was something else pertaining specifiacaly to MACS. Once again, I am only a Baby in upgrading Macs. My experience in PC's is not 'Godlike', however I have been working with PC hardware for about 10 years, and never had a problem installing memory.

Anyway, the reason I originally posted this thread was to find out if anyone had ever had a problem with Techworks memory adversly effecting their MAC system, and it seems, (so far) that no one has. Once again, if anyone has any other ideas, please let me know, as I don't want to spend $600 on a new logic board. I still have yet to try the key combination recommended by Zack to reset the PRAM.

i really don't know what happened to your Mac, it's quite an issue, you better bring it in to Apple, i'm hoping you're still covered under warranty...
it could have been the RAM that caused it, it could have been something else *shrugs* hope you get this resolved
 

bousozoku

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Jun 25, 2002
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jonepie said:
Guys, I was only kidding when I said that I rubbed my feet across the carpet and a balloon across my head before I installed the memory. Of course I made sure that I was not charged by wearing a static wristband. I thought that the terminology 'static preperation' was something else pertaining specificaly to MACS. Once again, I am only a Baby in upgrading Macs. My experience in PC's is not 'Godlike', however I have been working with PC hardware for about 10 years, and never had a problem installing memory.

Anyway, the reason I originally posted this thread was to find out if anyone had ever had a problem with Techworks memory adversly effecting their MAC system, and it seems, (so far) that no one has. Once again, if anyone has any other ideas, please let me know, as I don't want to spend $600 on a new logic board. I still have yet to try the key combination recommended by Zack to reset the PRAM.

I swore by TechWorks memory and never had it affect any machine adversly. I had switched in the last few years to OWC RAM when their availabilty was quicker and less expensive.

There is no real difference in upgrading the RAM in any machine and I've been installing RAM for 25 years.
 
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