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The Compaion App Leaks

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Just a question...
How did appleinsider (and 9to5mac.com) access the companion app in the beta? Is there some kind of hack on the iPhone?

Here's the link http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/02/04/inside-the-highly-customizable-companion-app-that-will-connect-your-apple-watch-to-your-iphone
 
Lots of interesting tidbits in there. Kinda concerned with the security bits - I'm sure that we'll hear reports of the watch being stolen off of people. But it doesn't seem like it has any protections where you can set a watch as "stolen" and it would erase or become useless.

Not sure what iPhone thefts are like these days but seems like an oversight not to lock that part of the watch down. No?
 
NewtypeCJ said:
Lots of interesting tidbits in there. Kinda concerned with the security bits - I'm sure that we'll hear reports of the watch being stolen off of people. But it doesn't seem like it has any protections where you can set a watch as "stolen" and it would erase or become useless.

Not sure what iPhone thefts are like these days but seems like an oversight not to lock that part of the watch down. No?
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When you put it on your wrist you must type in a password. Then it takes a picture of sorts of your wrist then and that is kinda used like Touch ID. When you take off the watch it can't do anything until the password is typed in again.
 
NewtypeCJ said:
Lots of interesting tidbits in there. Kinda concerned with the security bits - I'm sure that we'll hear reports of the watch being stolen off of people. But it doesn't seem like it has any protections where you can set a watch as "stolen" and it would erase or become useless.

Not sure what iPhone thefts are like these days but seems like an oversight not to lock that part of the watch down. No?
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It is believed that once the HR is lost (removed) the aWatch must be reauthorized (by iPhone pairing or PIN) to work. So steal one and you have a brick.
 
The Doctor11 said:
When you put it on your wrist you must type in a password. Then it takes a picture of sorts of your wrist then and that is kinda used like Touch ID. When you take off the watch it can't do anything until the password is typed in again.
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WTF? Are people just making stuff up now?
 
Julien said:
So steal one and you have a brick.
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I'm sure there are many who would like a 18 Karat gold brick. ;)
The fact it does not work means almost nothing,

I have been wondering, how long before we see the 1st news story in the press of the 1st person mugged/assaulted whist their Edition watch is stolen from them.
 
Piggie said:
I'm sure there are many who would like a 18 Karat gold brick. ;)
The fact it does not work means almost nothing,

I have been wondering, how long before we see the 1st news story in the press of the 1st person mugged/assaulted whist their Edition watch is stolen from them.
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Oh Ugghie .. do you know many people or have statistics number of people who own or walking down the streets blatantly showing off their Rolex or expensive jewelries that had been mugged / assaulted?

Breathe and think, my dear!

Are you saying criminals will be actively on the look-out or loitering around Apple stores?
 
cleirac said:
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Oh Ugghie .. do you know many people or have statistics number of people who own or walking down the streets blatantly showing off their Rolex or expensive jewelries that had been mugged / assaulted?

Breathe and think, my dear!
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I expect, being an Apple product it will be more common and more shown off, and given the magnetic straps far far easier to get off someone wrist
 
Piggie said:
I expect, being an Apple product it will be more common and more shown off, and given the magnetic straps far far easier to get off someone wrist
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Same thing with expensive iPads (or any expensive gadgets that do not need to be put on the wrists), if criminals wanted too, they could easily snatch it without the hassles or risks of being caught / tracked etc.

Only foolish people with expensive items bragging them openly ... It does ot it will happen but this is not exclusive to Apple products ...
 
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cleirac said:
Same thing with expensive iPads (or any expensive gadgets that do not need to be put on the wrists), if criminals wanted too, they could easily snatch it without the hassles or risks of being caught / tracked etc.

Only foolish people with expensive items bragging them openly ... It does happen but not exclusive to Apple products or will happen ...
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I'd still be interested to know what areas of America someone would not dare to wear a, as some have projected $5000 18K Gold Apple watch on their wrist walking down the street.

I don't feel it will be that price, I'm just using that value as some believe it will be.
 
If you're right then I am hoping the password is just a four digit pass code like the phone. Even then it seems like a very unnecessary step.
 
The Doctor11 said:
When you put it on your wrist you must type in a password. Then it takes a picture of sorts of your wrist then and that is kinda used like Touch ID.
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Unless one or more of the pulse rate sensors are cameras instead of simple LEDs, then it's more likely that they're simply used as a proximity alarm.

Julien said:
It is believed that once the HR is lost (removed) the aWatch must be reauthorized (by iPhone pairing or PIN) to work. So steal one and you have a brick.
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Depends on whether there's a way to reset the watch back to factory settings.

In which case, you'd have something worth reselling.
 
Piggie said:
I'm sure there are many who would like a 18 Karat gold brick. ;)
The fact it does not work means almost nothing,
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Lol, that would be true ONLY if the gold on it was was easily extricable & could thus have a purpose beyond being part of a broken watch.

I find it VERY hard to believe that even you have managed to convince yourself that a non-useable Apple Watch is equal in value to a fully operational one.

That's likely the most ludicrous statement I've heard all day.
 
Tycho24 said:
Lol, that would be true ONLY if the gold on it was was easily extricable & could thus have a purpose beyond being part of a broken watch.

I find it VERY hard to believe that even you have managed to convince yourself that a non-useable Apple Watch is equal in value to a fully operational one.

That's likely the most ludicrous statement I've heard all day.
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Actually, I feel that is totally and utterly incorrect on every level.

I believe most think the Apple watch is VERY Modular.

Take the body of the watch. Slide out the straps, pull away the back, pop out the screen, and the battery and Chip/Module pulls away easy, and there you have it. A bare metal shell. Simple, Hence why so many think this will be upgradable.

Secondly, the screen, inside and back of the watch are worth nothing against the gold case.

On the edition watch the gold case IS the value, everything else is of minimal value and probably easy to replace.

Whilst of course a perfect working anything is worth more than a broken one. I'd not expect there to be much of a turn around time to take a Gold Edition watch and replace the modular parts and have it of for perhaps a few $1000 profit.
 
kdarling said:
...Depends on whether there's a way to reset the watch back to factory settings.

In which case, you'd have something worth reselling.
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True, since we don't know for sure if it can be factory reset. Was thinking about access to personal data and meant "at least a temporary brick". We do know your data can't be accessed and will be wiped.
 
kdarling said:
Depends on whether there's a way to reset the watch back to factory settings.

In which case, you'd have something worth reselling.
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Apple has figured out how to keep stolen iPhones / iPads from being factory reset. They just need to apply that method to the watch.
 
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