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fcracer

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My entire life, I've had to suffer from having to reach for Small t-shirts on the top counter in clothing stores, to not being able to reach glasses in the cupboard, and having to hem every single pair of business pants I've bought, and yet, I find myself too tall for the default stand of the Apple Studio Display. Who is this made for? Even at my short height, I still need a good ~5-10CM lift...
 
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zedsdead

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I actually like a lower display, and I wouldn't mind if it was a tad lower....I would've bought the height adjustable but the minimum height is the same.
 
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VideoFreek

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I bought the height-adjustable model, but I think the tilt-only version would be good for someone who plans on using a monitor stand (e.g., to stash components or the keyboard under the display to free up desk space).
 

iStorm

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Well, everyone likes their monitors at different heights...some like it low, some like it high...so it's hard to compare with others.

To be "ergonomically correct" the top of the screen should be at eye level. Are you saying the top of the screen is 5-10cm below your eye level?
 

now i see it

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My crappy plastic Samsung monitor has an even shorter stand and minimal tilt adjustment. No height.
Yucky stands are common on monitors.
 

roland.g

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Anyone who uses a display in a lower height setting (or thinks it is a good idea) either ignores or does not know about correct monitor viewing height and the negative impacts of improper monitor placement and viewing height along with how monitor viewing angles can lead to prolonged physical issues.
 
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Anyone who uses a display in a lower height setting (or thinks it is a good idea) either ignores or does not know about correct monitor viewing height and the negative impacts of improper monitor placement and viewing height along with how monitor viewing angles can lead to prolonged physical issues.
You must not wear progressive lenses where the near vision is at the bottom of the lens.
 

iStorm

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Anyone who uses a display in a lower height setting (or thinks it is a good idea) either ignores or does not know about correct monitor viewing height and the negative impacts of improper monitor placement and viewing height along with how monitor viewing angles can lead to prolonged physical issues.
I'm curious where this is coming from. All ergonomic training I've gone through with my employer (and found online) have stated that the top of the monitor should be at or slightly below eye level, and that you should be looking slightly downwards when viewing the middle of the screen. Are you saying it should be higher?
 
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roland.g

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I'm curious where this is coming from. All ergonomic training I've gone through with my employer (and found online) have stated that the top of the monitor should be at or slightly below eye level, and that you should be looking slightly downwards when viewing the middle of the screen. Are you saying it should be higher?
All the ergonomic training I've gone through and the information provided to me by doctors has stated that the top of the monitor should be 2-3" above eye level so that you maintain proper posture. I do look slightly downwards to view the middle of the screen. However, many people put monitors on their desk and tilt them or have them on too short of stands resulting in the top of the bezel below their eyeline. This result in canting the head down slightly to look at the screen and as a result it affects your neck. This is why everyone at my work used a twin monitor stand to raise the top of the screens up.
 

fcracer

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Well, everyone likes their monitors at different heights...some like it low, some like it high...so it's hard to compare with others.

To be "ergonomically correct" the top of the screen should be at eye level. Are you saying the top of the screen is 5-10cm below your eye level?
I started this post being a bit facetious and for humour, but like many posts on macrumors, someone comes along and adds some very interesting points.

I always assumed the correct position was to have my eyes perpendicular at the middle of the screen (seems logical right?), but you’re right that the correct placement is in the top 1/3rd or where your eyes spend the most time.

Thank you for raising this point as I wouldn’t have known this had you not!

for further reading, Cleveland Clinic has several podcasts and documents on this subject, but this diagram I think summarizes it well:

cc-esports-ergonomics.jpg
 
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I started this post being a bit facetious and for humour, but like many posts on macrumors, someone comes along and adds some very interesting points.

I always assumed the correct position was to have my eyes perpendicular at the middle of the screen (seems logical right?), but you’re right that the correct placement is in the top 1/3rd or where your eyes spend the most time.

Thank you for raising this point as I wouldn’t have known this had you not!

for further reading, Cleveland Clinic has several podcasts and documents on this subject, but this diagram I think summarizes it well:

cc-esports-ergonomics.jpg

if you do a google image search for “correct seating position at computer,” you’ll find slight variations on monitor height, but the key is your body position, not the monitor’s position.

I wear progressive lenses to correct astigmatism with the far vision at the top of the lenses, the middle vision in the middle of the lenses and near vision at the bottom.

if I had my monitor at the height in the diagram above, I would have to tilt my head back so that I was looking through the bottom of my glasses at the screen. For me, a slightly lower display let’s me sit with correct posture without having to tilt my neck back to see the screen.

The biggest posture improvement I ever made was ensuring that my forearms are parallel to the floor by having my chair’s armrests about the same height as my desk. If you can push a chair with armrests under the desk, your desk is too high or your chair (or ardjustsble armrest) is too low.
 
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4sallypat

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I have the fixed height, tilt adjustable Studio display and it's perfect.

To the left side, I have my 11 year old 27" Thunderbolt display and it's at the same height as the Studio Display so I have gotten used to the height after 11 years of use.
IMG_8808.jpg
 

HazardousT

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Monitor stands will do the job and you don't have to spend $400 for them. Another user hear mentioned these in another threat and I took the chance. A great buy that complements the Mac ecosystem.

 

hans1972

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I started this post being a bit facetious and for humour, but like many posts on macrumors, someone comes along and adds some very interesting points.

I always assumed the correct position was to have my eyes perpendicular at the middle of the screen (seems logical right?), but you’re right that the correct placement is in the top 1/3rd or where your eyes spend the most time.

Thank you for raising this point as I wouldn’t have known this had you not!

for further reading, Cleveland Clinic has several podcasts and documents on this subject, but this diagram I think summarizes it well:

cc-esports-ergonomics.jpg

And how do Cleveland Clinic deals with laptops?

I have never followed any of the ergonomic rules and suffered no problems during the last decades. I just make sure my back is alright. I don't type a lot and I change my position a lot and are walking around.
 
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