The first few months of apps

[Xack]

It’s probably going to be quite rough for the first few months. Fundamental apps such as browsers, developer tools, core utilities. These kinds of apps are hard to run in emulation and will need to have native versions. We also don’t have a working Windows/Linux emulation yet either. The transition kit experience has been under an NDA, so we won’t get a real knowledge of the experience until production Macs are out into the public.

 

[jashsayani]

The big bang about this mac = slow death of web for mac users. Most people use iOS app 99% of the time. If the same apps show up on MacBooks, you might use Bank of America app instead of the website on MacBook too. So most daily tasks will be done with universal apps and MacBook users will use a web browser much less.

 

[Realityck]

It’s probably going to be quite rough for the first few months. Fundamental apps such as browsers, developer tools, core utilities. These kinds of apps are hard to run in emulation and will need to have native versions. We also don’t have a working Windows/Linux emulation yet either. The transition kit experience has been under an NDA, so we won’t get a real knowledge of the experience until production Macs are out into the public.

Whats makes you think that you don't have Big Sur as installed and running native on a M1 based Mac? The DTK Mac mini was to test applications to run as Universal Fat Binaries.

 

[aednichols]

It’s probably going to be quite rough for the first few months. Fundamental apps such as browsers, developer tools, core utilities. These kinds of apps are hard to run in emulation and will need to have native versions. We also don’t have a working Windows/Linux emulation yet either. The transition kit experience has been under an NDA, so we won’t get a real knowledge of the experience until production Macs are out into the public.

I trust Rosetta to work correctly virtually 100% of the time, and to work fast enough 98% of the time.

Apple stated during the keynote that the new CPUs are so much faster that in some cases they run Intel binaries under emulation faster than Intel chips themselves.

 

[DreamPod]

"Fundamental apps such as browsers, developer tools, core utilities"

Those are the exact apps that Apple said are already running natively. They said all Apple software is, including Safari and XCode. And they showed other developer apps such as Unity (Unity 2020.2b mentions support for Apple Silicon).

 

[Xack]

Apple's development tools are okay but it will take a bit longer for all third party libraries and programming languages to be ported, especially stuff that relies heavily on x86 assembly. And Google Chrome hasn't even been released for Windows on ARM natively yet. We are in a mutli stage "bootstrapping" of the Apple silicon ecosystem, the first being in Apple's Labs, second the DTK, and now first gen M1 devices. The stage after that will be the rest of the devices getting an M-series chip.

 

[ww1971]

It’s probably going to be quite rough for the first few months. Fundamental apps such as browsers, developer tools, core utilities. These kinds of apps are hard to run in emulation and will need to have native versions. We also don’t have a working Windows/Linux emulation yet either. The transition kit experience has been under an NDA, so we won’t get a real knowledge of the experience until production Macs are out into the public.

hmm most existing applications should work under rosetta 2 but don’t expect those applications to run full speed or very fast speed at first until more native versions come out

 

[PeterJP]

I trust Rosetta to work correctly virtually 100% of the time, and to work fast enough 98% of the time.

Apple stated during the keynote that the new CPUs are so much faster that in some cases they run Intel binaries under emulation faster than Intel chips themselves.

That would be very interesting. As the IT manager of a media company, I know I will get the question whether to buy an AS or Intel mac the next time somebody needs a new machine. So I'm seriously considering a 16/512 mac mini M1 to see how the situation evolves.