The future location of WWDC?

[lostngone]

With the addition of iOS and the iPhone/iPad and the growth of market share WWDC attendance demand has grown(a lot).

I understand anything can happen from Apple splitting iOS/iPhone/iPad to a different event or canceling WWDC altogether.

If they do keep holding this monolithic event each year where is Apple going to hold it? Moscone West sold out in 8 days this year. Next year could be even quicker. They could rent out North, South and West but at this point that would only hold for one or two more years before we are back to 8 day sell-outs again.

What other venues are bigger then the Moscone Center that are setup for events like this and are close to Cupertino? They could move it out of California but that would cost a lot to fly and lodge that amount of Apple staff.

 

[miles01110]

Why do you think they need more space? Just because an event sells out quickly doesn't mean they should find a bigger venue.

 

[lostngone]

Why do you think they need more space? Just because an event sells out quickly doesn't mean they should find a bigger venue.

It is hard to shuffle your calendar and getting funding approval in that short amount of time.

One problem is even if you plan on going. Apple doesn't give a lot of lead time from when they announce the dates and schedule for WWDC and as registration time shrink its is getting harder and harder to get approval to go.

This year ~90% of what was covered at WWDC was about iOS and the iPhone it is a waste time and money for someone that is only writing code that only runs on Desktops/Servers to go. They only publish the full schedule of events after the registration is closed and they do not offer refunds on tickets.

 

[miles01110]

It is hard to shuffle your calendar and getting funding approval in that short amount of time.

One problem is even if you plan on going. Apple doesn't give a lot of lead time from when they announce the dates and schedule for WWDC and as registration time shrink its is getting harder and harder to get approval to go.

...but that's your problem, not Apple's. Until it becomes a problem for Apple, why would they change it?

This year ~90% of what was covered at WWDC was about iOS and the iPhone it is a waste time and money for someone that is only writing code that only runs on Desktops/Servers to go. They only publish the full schedule of events after the registration is closed and they do not offer refunds on tickets.

Again I don't see what this has to do with getting a larger venue.

 

[lostngone]

...but that's your problem, not Apple's. Until it becomes a problem for Apple, why would they change it?

No, that isn't just my problem. I know a lot of developers that wanted to go but couldn't due the short time period. You can blow it off as not Apple's problem however fewer developers attending means fewer Apps and lower quality output.

Again I don't see what this has to do with getting a larger venue.

Well... With a larger venue Apple could cover more.

 

[miles01110]

No, that isn't just my problem. I know a lot of developers that wanted to go but couldn't due the short time period.

That's probably the case every year.

You can blow it off as not Apple's problem however fewer developers attending means fewer Apps and lower quality output.

Do you have evidence of fewer developers attending because it sold out faster? You're changing your story in an attempt to save your argument, it seems.

Well... With a larger venue Apple could cover more.

Maybe. I'd imagine that the limiting factor is the number of Apple staff available to run the workshops, not floor space.

 

[maflynn]

It is hard to shuffle your calendar and getting funding approval in that short amount of time.

I agree with Miles on this one. Given that the it sold out, means that most people didn't have any issues the timing

 

[lostngone]

I agree with Miles on this one. Given that the it sold out, means that most people didn't have any issues the timing

Well using the data we have, it sold out in 8 days. How can you say "most" people didn't have any issues when we don't have accurate numbers of how many developers missed out. Maybe 10,000 more wanted to go.

I was thinking about going this year. I knew registration had opened but I was very busy with work and personal issues at that time. I started looking around for hotels/flights and it was only 2-3 hours after I registered that apple closed registration.

I have talked to a few developers especially in foreign countries that wanted and tried but missed out.

 

[maflynn]

So next time, plan better.

I hate to sound cold, but every developer knew that WWDC was coming and it was in June, so its not like apple out of the blue decided to have it.

Yes it did sell out in 8 days, so that meant if you reserved a ticket in day 6 you would have went. My point is that this is not apple's fault or problem. We have no idea that they'd sell 10,000 more tickets with a large venue - that's pure speculation.

 

[lostngone]

How about we get back on topic...

What other venues are bigger then the Moscone Center that are setup for events like this and are close to Cupertino? They could move it out of California but that would cost a lot to fly and lodge that amount of Apple staff.

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[maflynn]

Back to Miles point, that apple may not want a bigger place. Just because it sold out doesn't mean apple is going to spend a ton of money to house a bigger place when they seem content with what they have now

 

[smithrh]

Back to Miles point, that apple may not want a bigger place. Just because it sold out doesn't mean apple is going to spend a ton of money to house a bigger place when they seem content with what they have now

They also only have a certain number of developers that they employ...

 

[KameronBriggs]

Why do you think they need more space? Just because an event sells out quickly doesn't mean they should find a bigger venue.

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