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The new screen, ****** specs?

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aliquis-

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I have no idea what the specs of the old screen was, but this isn't very impressive is it?

http://www.cybertheater.com/lg-philips-lp154wp2-154-inch-tft-display/
http://publish.it168.com/2007/0210/20070210045403.shtml

1440 x 900 resolution, 16ms response time, 500:1 contrast ratio, 45% color gamut, 120 degrees visibility angle and 300 cd/m2 brightness.

Still 18 bit color, manufacturer says correct color amount, Apple does not, to be expected thought. Does anyone know if it's a TN-panel? The rest of the specs seems to suck anyhow:

16ms response time!?! Ok if it had decent colors and viewing angels but obviously it doesn't, is it a TN? Why so high in that case?

110/120 degrees viewing range SUCK. It would have been very cool if they used that good display type whatever it's called, which are 24 bit and have like 178 degrees viewing angle. Those are very expensive thought and I can understand that they aren't used... But for a pro laptop for graphics people it would be very cool if they did.

What is 45% color gamut? How correct the worst color are? Is it a decent value?

However I have no idea if there even exist good laptop displays, but I can only hope it does :)
 
aliquis- said:
I have no idea what the specs of the old screen was, but this isn't very impressive is it?

http://www.cybertheater.com/lg-philips-lp154wp2-154-inch-tft-display/
http://publish.it168.com/2007/0210/20070210045403.shtml

1440 x 900 resolution, 16ms response time, 500:1 contrast ratio, 45% color gamut, 120 degrees visibility angle and 300 cd/m2 brightness.

Still 18 bit color, manufacturer says correct color amount, Apple does not, to be expected thought. Does anyone know if it's a TN-panel? The rest of the specs seems to suck anyhow:

16ms response time!?! Ok if it had decent colors and viewing angels but obviously it doesn't, is it a TN? Why so high in that case?

110/120 degrees viewing range SUCK. It would have been very cool if they used that good display type whatever it's called, which are 24 bit and have like 178 degrees viewing angle. Those are very expensive thought and I can understand that they aren't used... But for a pro laptop for graphics people it would be very cool if they did.

What is 45% color gamut? How correct the worst color are? Is it a decent value?

However I have no idea if there even exist good laptop displays, but I can only hope it does :)
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I don't know of many laptop screens that have better than a 16ms response time.

Either way, I can't say I see a problem with it.... I was just watching video on a new SR MacBook Pro (matte version) and it was smooth as butter.
 
Yeah, I ditched my last girlfriend because her HDL/LDL ratios and BMI weren't up to current specs, so I know what you mean.

No matter how good she looked, the numbers just didn't match the state of the art, so I had no choice.
 
aliquis- said:
I have no idea what the specs of the old screen was, but this isn't very impressive is it?

http://www.cybertheater.com/lg-philips-lp154wp2-154-inch-tft-display/
http://publish.it168.com/2007/0210/20070210045403.shtml

1440 x 900 resolution, 16ms response time, 500:1 contrast ratio, 45% color gamut, 120 degrees visibility angle and 300 cd/m2 brightness.

Still 18 bit color, manufacturer says correct color amount, Apple does not, to be expected thought. Does anyone know if it's a TN-panel? The rest of the specs seems to suck anyhow:

16ms response time!?! Ok if it had decent colors and viewing angels but obviously it doesn't, is it a TN? Why so high in that case?

110/120 degrees viewing range SUCK. It would have been very cool if they used that good display type whatever it's called, which are 24 bit and have like 178 degrees viewing angle. Those are very expensive thought and I can understand that they aren't used... But for a pro laptop for graphics people it would be very cool if they did.

What is 45% color gamut? How correct the worst color are? Is it a decent value?

However I have no idea if there even exist good laptop displays, but I can only hope it does :)
Click to expand...

Boy, you sure popped up in the mushroom patch busting on Apple displays. :p
 
aliquis- said:
I have no idea what the specs of the old screen was, but this isn't very impressive is it?

http://www.cybertheater.com/lg-philips-lp154wp2-154-inch-tft-display/
http://publish.it168.com/2007/0210/20070210045403.shtml

1440 x 900 resolution, 16ms response time, 500:1 contrast ratio, 45% color gamut, 120 degrees visibility angle and 300 cd/m2 brightness.

Still 18 bit color, manufacturer says correct color amount, Apple does not, to be expected thought. Does anyone know if it's a TN-panel? The rest of the specs seems to suck anyhow:

16ms response time!?! Ok if it had decent colors and viewing angels but obviously it doesn't, is it a TN? Why so high in that case?

110/120 degrees viewing range SUCK. It would have been very cool if they used that good display type whatever it's called, which are 24 bit and have like 178 degrees viewing angle. Those are very expensive thought and I can understand that they aren't used... But for a pro laptop for graphics people it would be very cool if they did.

What is 45% color gamut? How correct the worst color are? Is it a decent value?

However I have no idea if there even exist good laptop displays, but I can only hope it does :)
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Laptop monitors are mostly TN because of size constraints. I would be happy if they are just not as grainy and have blotchy backlighting as the last ones, at least I am pretty sure the new ones won't have blotchy backlighting...
 
iW00t said:
Laptop monitors are mostly TN because of size constraints. I would be happy if they are just not as grainy and have blotchy backlighting as the last ones, at least I am pretty sure the new ones won't have blotchy backlighting...
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The matte screen 15.4" LED backlit screen I saw on the new MBP at the Apple Store didn't have the blotchy backlighting issues; was brighter, whiter/blacker, more evenly lit. Exactly what I was hoping for.
 
Zadillo said:
I don't know of many laptop screens that have better than a 16ms response time.

Either way, I can't say I see a problem with it.... I was just watching video on a new SR MacBook Pro (matte version) and it was smooth as butter.
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Neither do I, I don't know **** about what laptops use to have, just that LCDs doesn't seem that great over CRTs but that there exist a few which are atleast decent, but that is on the desktop of course.

And only ms spec doesn't say much anyway.
CanadaRAM said:
Yeah, I ditched my last girlfriend because her HDL/LDL ratios and BMI weren't up to current specs, so I know what you mean.

No matter how good she looked, the numbers just didn't match the state of the art, so I had no choice.
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Good looking with wrong BMI? Guess that depends on the fat ratio ;/
iW00t said:
Laptop monitors are mostly TN because of size constraints. I would be happy if they are just not as grainy and have blotchy backlighting as the last ones, at least I am pretty sure the new ones won't have blotchy backlighting...
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I've read comments which says they are less grainy, I haven't seen one IRL (not the old ones either, last time I saw one was a powerbook like 5 years ago ..)
 
There is a big difference in quality between notebook and desktop LCDs - it's just the way things are at this point. However, like iwoot, I'd be relatively content if these LCDs are grainless and have even backlighting. I'm feeling quite confident that this will be the case with the new LED-lit displays, but I'll know more in a few hours when mine arrives...
 
yeah TN's blow, but i think pretty much all laptops use them so everyones in the same boat.

im just glad i have my Dell 2005FPW.... 8bit (24bit colour) IPS panel FTMW!!!!

(IPS is the panel the OP mentions with the near 180 deg viewing angles)

the best IPS panel you can get right now is the NEC 20.1inch... its glossy coating and Advanced dynamic contrast thing which gives it 1600:1 ratio makes it down right amazing.

its a S-IPS panel (super in plane switching) and its supposedly equivalent in response to a 2ms TN

i think TN's use the least power mind

IPS panels on laptops? i dont know...are there any? probably not....by the time there is, there'll be a newer, better display tech.

M-PVA panels arent bad either, but they can have that wierd effect where the colours actually look better on them when viewed from the side, rather than straight on.

i would of thought proffessionals would have a proffesional monitor to hook things up to like those Eizo's that are calibrated by hand at the factory. i dont think any of apples LCD's or laptop displays are worthy of proper professional use, but for everyone else they'll be just fine
 
Response times are a horrible way to gauge panel quality. Manufacturers measure it differently, i.e. black-to-white, gray-to-gray, etc. My Dell purportedly has a 16ms response time, but it doesn't ghost at all. My guess is LG uses a longer response time test.

In my opinion, a monitor's viewing angle and backlight distribution are far more important.
 
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