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the point of AIM on iphone?
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Check paragraph 2 -- or watch the keynote
http://gizmodo.com/5014673/iphone-20-software-available-in-early-july-free-for-iphone
http://gizmodo.com/5014673/iphone-20-software-available-in-early-july-free-for-iphone
Web Apps will not keep you logged on...
AIM keeps you on for 15 minutes.
AOL will get it down once Push comes to the iPhone.
The reason why it doesn't work like any other phones is cause that'd be useless performance and battery drain. Push is the way to go...come on, September!
AIM keeps you on for 15 minutes.
AOL will get it down once Push comes to the iPhone.
The reason why it doesn't work like any other phones is cause that'd be useless performance and battery drain. Push is the way to go...come on, September!
This has nothing to do with the SDK, its AOLs servers. Even beejive keeps you logged in for 2 hours before kicking you off. 15 mins?!!! WTF...
And push doesnt even work yet for apps... Mobile chat will dominate this.
Starting in Sept. Apple will launch a push notification service that will allow AIM to act as if it's signed on all the time without actually using resources by running in the background.
Example:
You log into aim application on iPhone but close it to do something else (AIM app is no longer running on phone)
You still appear as online and someone sends you an IM
AIM's servers are able to "push" a notification to your phone that you have a new IM and a badge appears (like getting a new email)
You open AIm app again and respond
Rinse and repeat
It's all in the WWDC08 keynote
Example:
You log into aim application on iPhone but close it to do something else (AIM app is no longer running on phone)
You still appear as online and someone sends you an IM
AIM's servers are able to "push" a notification to your phone that you have a new IM and a badge appears (like getting a new email)
You open AIm app again and respond
Rinse and repeat
It's all in the WWDC08 keynote
Web Apps will not keep you logged on...
AIM keeps you on for 15 minutes.
AOL will get it down once Push comes to the iPhone.
The reason why it doesn't work like any other phones is cause that'd be useless performance and battery drain. Push is the way to go...come on, September!
When i had my sidekick..aim was on all the time and the battery seemed totally fine....
It most certainly has something to do with the SDK.
Push is a lot better than the queuing of messages.
In fact, it DOES have to do with the SDK since SDK developed apps that are released on the App Store aren't allowed to run in the background (stay active even after you exit). Your beloved mobilechat would operate the same way if it was released on the AS today.
Doesn't the Sidekick use SMS for IMs (which is why the plans always come with unlimited SMS included)?
AOL logging me out has NOTHING to do with the SDK. Period, end of story. Thats a server side feature, not a program feature. There are websites you can go to now that keep you logged in, and text message you when you get a message... but.. its web based meaning it has no noises.
The SDK just doesnt let it run in the background... which has nothing to do with aol signing you out on THEIR server. They could have programmed it to tell the server you are on mobile, and it will keep you logged in for a period of time that YOU choose. It wouldnt notify you of new messages, but at least you would be online to GET them.
The SDK just doesnt let it run in the background... which has nothing to do with aol signing you out on THEIR server. They could have programmed it to tell the server you are on mobile, and it will keep you logged in for a period of time that YOU choose. It wouldnt notify you of new messages, but at least you would be online to GET them.
You're exactly right- the push notification service has nothing to do with whether AOL logs you out of AIM after a certain period of time. I think the AIM app is supposed to leave you logged in by default, otherwise what would be the purpose of the option to have it log you out on exit? The problem right now is that it just doesn't seem to work right.
The only thing that Apple's push notification service will allow them to do is put the little number badge on the AIM icon when you get new messages and play a sound. But in order to have people send you messages in the first place, AOL's own servers must keep you logged in.
The only thing that Apple's push notification service will allow them to do is put the little number badge on the AIM icon when you get new messages and play a sound. But in order to have people send you messages in the first place, AOL's own servers must keep you logged in.
Unless they send the actual IM in the background, too. That would let you see what was sent to you without having to sign in, right?
Just a little side note. You can add phone numbers to AIM and use it as a way of gettin free text messages instead of having a text plan,. Just a few extra steps to do it.
It will be fine in September when the Push servers are up and we can get Push notification on any app. Then we can get text message-like notification of new IMs and we will be "online" and it will be totally transparent.
Until then, deal with it. You dealt with not having AIM before, I'm sure you can deal with it for another few months.
This will be very nice, as there are people that I communicate with solely through AIM and yet I don't have AIM on my work computers and so I am not logged in a lot of the time.