Disclaimer : English isn’t my first language, so please don’t focus too much on my mistakes and mostly on the message.
In this thread, I will describe my experiment with Windows 10 as a Mac user.
About me : I’m 31 years old and have been using a Mac for pretty much all my life. Once, my dad bought a Windows PC so my brother and I could play Baldur’s Gate and Unreal Tournament. It worked for a while but didn’t last because we caught some viruses and it was **** to keep up with the drivers. I don’t remember what OS it was but think something like XP or 98. Finally my father put the PC in the trash and bought an iMac instead.
I always owned Macbooks (white Macbook then Macbook Air then Macbook Pro) for college and never thought about buying a PC because that’s what I was used to and because of all the **** you hear about Windows. And also because my parents helped me to pay for those computers and they always suggested Macs.
Now I’m out of college. I don’t need a laptop anymore so I’m looking for alternatives to Macs because those are expensive when you buy them with your own money. I’m always a “good bang for the buck” kinda guy so I’m looking for the best value, according to my use case. I’m also not pleased with the butterfly keyboard and lack of legacy ports. In January, I purchased a 2016 unit and tried to get used to it for 2 weeks writing essays on it but ended returning it because I just despised the typing experience. I like travel on my keyboards and for me, good design is adapted to the end used, not the other way. Despite what some people say around this subreddit, I think a keyboard has to be adapted to me, I don’t have to get “used” to it. I always loved Apple keyboard and enjoy typing on my 2015.
So I recently bought a used (Craigslist) Intel NUC with an i7, 8gb RAM and 256 SSD M.2 drive for 500$ Canadian so about 395$ USD. It runs Windows 10 Pro. Usually, you have to buy the NUC, Ram, SSD and OS but since it was pre-owned, the guy already assembled it. Here is the link for the unit I own : https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC5i7...8&qid=1503014708&sr=8-5&keywords=intel+nuc+i7
For the geeks, it’s a 5th Generation Intel Core i7-5557U processor, so a little bit faster than the i5 in my 2015 Macbook Pro.
I’ve been using this (tiny) computer for about 2 weeks now and I’m very surprised at how good it is for my workflow. I’m mostly doing Microsoft Office stuff and browsing with Chrome. No games, and I would be disappointed because it has integrated graphics anyway. I downloaded all my files from the cloud with Google Drive, installed Microsoft Office 365, Spotify, Utorrent, VLC, etc. I must confess I’m very pleased because I had zero blue screen, driver issue or annoying software update. It was basically plug and play with my mouse, display, keyboard and printer. It boots quicker than my 2015 Macbook Pro and is even a little bit snappier for everyday work. I’m not yet used to the shortcuts so it may take some time before I’m as quick as on the Mac but I’m sure I’ll get used to it.
My guess is most bugs on Windows 10 are now ironed because the OS is already 2 years old. Also, since I’m using an SSD, it’s super quick and most people probably still use HHD so that slows their computer.
Pros
· Upgradable: up to 32gb or RAM and 2Tb SSD
· Also cheap to upgrade… get your SSD and RAM on Amazon for much less than Apple’s BTO unit
· It’s super tiny, can carry it easily
· Work very well with my 32 Inches BenQ monitor
· Boots in 10 secs.
· Way cheaper than a Mac Mini
Cons
· Meh UI: While it’s functional, I must confess Windows 10 isn’t as beautiful as macOS. I don’t care much honestly, but for those who are very attached to the prettiness of macOS, it may be a bummer. I also couldn’t find nice Calendar and Email apps so I just use the Windows 10 apps instead. They are not pretty, I prefer Spark and Fantastical 2 (or even macOS’ own email and calendar) but they work OK so for the moment I stick to them.
· No iMessage app. Most of my friends are also on Facebook so I just switched to Facebook Messenger. It works alright. I’m not going to pay a premium for a proprietary messaging app. Not an issue for me.
· Noise: The computer isn’t loud per se, but I can certainly hear the fan even on idle. It may be because mine is an i7 and it runs a little bit hotter than an i3 or i5. I’ve heard it’s normal to hear the fans purring on the background on Windows PCs. Mac users who don’t use PCs don’t realize that but their computers are dead silent when they aren’t under load.
· Choosing a PC can be very exhausting. There is SOOO much choice! How do you know what to pick? I overcame this problem by tracking my computer usage with a small App I downloaded on my Mac (Usage is the name of the App). After a month of tracking, I realized I was spending my time between Microsoft Office, Mail, Chrome. I also used Lightroom but very rarely (2 times a month, to edit some images for Wordpress). So I realized I didn’t need horsepower of anything fancy, certainly not a quadcore or a fancy graphics card. I wanted a very small form factor, cheap system, upgradable and SSD.
I realize it’s something weird because when you spend so much time on an OS, you get used and attached to it. People still like to call themselves a “Mac guy” or “PC guy”. I like to say OS are tools and don’t care much about labeling myself to my operating system. So overall, I’m a happy camper with my new computer. For my use case, it does all I need it to do. And with the SSD in it, it will probably not slow down over time like Windows PCs can do after a couple of years. I can say that Windows 10 is NOT the piece of **** operating system people like to describe on Apple forums all around the web. I enjoy the freedom of not being “trapped” in the Apple ecosystem. I use Gmail, Google Drive and Google Photos so I don’t loose much. Never really liked iCloud. I still have my 2015 Macbook Pro but didn’t use it since I set up this computer. It’s still worth about 1800 CND on Craigslist… and to be honest, I’m thinking about selling it and get a cheap Chromebook for browsing on the couch and call it a day.
I’m aware that all this is very recent and I didn’t test it extensively yet. If you guys like the thread, I intend to do a follow up or “Part II” in a month or two to report my experience and if I still feel the same about Windows 10.
TLDR : Mac user all my life, decided to try the “dark side” and see how was Windows 10. I’m very pleased to say the least and may even sell my 2015 MBP.
Cheers!
In this thread, I will describe my experiment with Windows 10 as a Mac user.
About me : I’m 31 years old and have been using a Mac for pretty much all my life. Once, my dad bought a Windows PC so my brother and I could play Baldur’s Gate and Unreal Tournament. It worked for a while but didn’t last because we caught some viruses and it was **** to keep up with the drivers. I don’t remember what OS it was but think something like XP or 98. Finally my father put the PC in the trash and bought an iMac instead.
I always owned Macbooks (white Macbook then Macbook Air then Macbook Pro) for college and never thought about buying a PC because that’s what I was used to and because of all the **** you hear about Windows. And also because my parents helped me to pay for those computers and they always suggested Macs.
Now I’m out of college. I don’t need a laptop anymore so I’m looking for alternatives to Macs because those are expensive when you buy them with your own money. I’m always a “good bang for the buck” kinda guy so I’m looking for the best value, according to my use case. I’m also not pleased with the butterfly keyboard and lack of legacy ports. In January, I purchased a 2016 unit and tried to get used to it for 2 weeks writing essays on it but ended returning it because I just despised the typing experience. I like travel on my keyboards and for me, good design is adapted to the end used, not the other way. Despite what some people say around this subreddit, I think a keyboard has to be adapted to me, I don’t have to get “used” to it. I always loved Apple keyboard and enjoy typing on my 2015.
So I recently bought a used (Craigslist) Intel NUC with an i7, 8gb RAM and 256 SSD M.2 drive for 500$ Canadian so about 395$ USD. It runs Windows 10 Pro. Usually, you have to buy the NUC, Ram, SSD and OS but since it was pre-owned, the guy already assembled it. Here is the link for the unit I own : https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC5i7...8&qid=1503014708&sr=8-5&keywords=intel+nuc+i7
For the geeks, it’s a 5th Generation Intel Core i7-5557U processor, so a little bit faster than the i5 in my 2015 Macbook Pro.
I’ve been using this (tiny) computer for about 2 weeks now and I’m very surprised at how good it is for my workflow. I’m mostly doing Microsoft Office stuff and browsing with Chrome. No games, and I would be disappointed because it has integrated graphics anyway. I downloaded all my files from the cloud with Google Drive, installed Microsoft Office 365, Spotify, Utorrent, VLC, etc. I must confess I’m very pleased because I had zero blue screen, driver issue or annoying software update. It was basically plug and play with my mouse, display, keyboard and printer. It boots quicker than my 2015 Macbook Pro and is even a little bit snappier for everyday work. I’m not yet used to the shortcuts so it may take some time before I’m as quick as on the Mac but I’m sure I’ll get used to it.
My guess is most bugs on Windows 10 are now ironed because the OS is already 2 years old. Also, since I’m using an SSD, it’s super quick and most people probably still use HHD so that slows their computer.
Pros
· Upgradable: up to 32gb or RAM and 2Tb SSD
· Also cheap to upgrade… get your SSD and RAM on Amazon for much less than Apple’s BTO unit
· It’s super tiny, can carry it easily
· Work very well with my 32 Inches BenQ monitor
· Boots in 10 secs.
· Way cheaper than a Mac Mini
Cons
· Meh UI: While it’s functional, I must confess Windows 10 isn’t as beautiful as macOS. I don’t care much honestly, but for those who are very attached to the prettiness of macOS, it may be a bummer. I also couldn’t find nice Calendar and Email apps so I just use the Windows 10 apps instead. They are not pretty, I prefer Spark and Fantastical 2 (or even macOS’ own email and calendar) but they work OK so for the moment I stick to them.
· No iMessage app. Most of my friends are also on Facebook so I just switched to Facebook Messenger. It works alright. I’m not going to pay a premium for a proprietary messaging app. Not an issue for me.
· Noise: The computer isn’t loud per se, but I can certainly hear the fan even on idle. It may be because mine is an i7 and it runs a little bit hotter than an i3 or i5. I’ve heard it’s normal to hear the fans purring on the background on Windows PCs. Mac users who don’t use PCs don’t realize that but their computers are dead silent when they aren’t under load.
· Choosing a PC can be very exhausting. There is SOOO much choice! How do you know what to pick? I overcame this problem by tracking my computer usage with a small App I downloaded on my Mac (Usage is the name of the App). After a month of tracking, I realized I was spending my time between Microsoft Office, Mail, Chrome. I also used Lightroom but very rarely (2 times a month, to edit some images for Wordpress). So I realized I didn’t need horsepower of anything fancy, certainly not a quadcore or a fancy graphics card. I wanted a very small form factor, cheap system, upgradable and SSD.
I realize it’s something weird because when you spend so much time on an OS, you get used and attached to it. People still like to call themselves a “Mac guy” or “PC guy”. I like to say OS are tools and don’t care much about labeling myself to my operating system. So overall, I’m a happy camper with my new computer. For my use case, it does all I need it to do. And with the SSD in it, it will probably not slow down over time like Windows PCs can do after a couple of years. I can say that Windows 10 is NOT the piece of **** operating system people like to describe on Apple forums all around the web. I enjoy the freedom of not being “trapped” in the Apple ecosystem. I use Gmail, Google Drive and Google Photos so I don’t loose much. Never really liked iCloud. I still have my 2015 Macbook Pro but didn’t use it since I set up this computer. It’s still worth about 1800 CND on Craigslist… and to be honest, I’m thinking about selling it and get a cheap Chromebook for browsing on the couch and call it a day.
I’m aware that all this is very recent and I didn’t test it extensively yet. If you guys like the thread, I intend to do a follow up or “Part II” in a month or two to report my experience and if I still feel the same about Windows 10.
TLDR : Mac user all my life, decided to try the “dark side” and see how was Windows 10. I’m very pleased to say the least and may even sell my 2015 MBP.
Cheers!